Another Star Ocean 3 Thread !

[JTD]

Uh... both AMD and Intel can do that... just overclock them high enough...

It's not like it's a particularly very slow scene or anything.

No doubt.
However, I would like some hard numbers, community willing.

As for testing speed of the game, I've got it about half ...

I'm looking foward to your speed test with that six core Phenom II CPU @ 4 GHz that you have.

When you are able to, can you try disabling the frame rate limiter for that scene?
I've been thinking about opting for a x4 965 BE CPU (my motherboard is compatible with it, I looked it up @ gigabyte's website ^_^) instead of going the intel route. I don't need 4 cores, let alone 6, (only 2 would do) but through my research (googling) I've found that the x4 965 BE has the best chance of hitting 4 GHz stable (because it's not a failed part, like some of the x2's and x3's) and at the very least, it comes at a stock speed of only 100 MHZ slower than my oc'ed x2 240, and I've yet to read about anyone getting a lower OC than 3.8 GHz on the x4 965 BE (witch would be 300 mhz higher than what I have).
Epic run-on sentence! Sorry bout' that !
I've also read that your 6-core beast hits 4 GHz easily too.

Is GGdx Software Mode limited to only 2 cores?
If not, what's the point of diminishing returns?

Doing so would save me like $200, and I wouldn't have to install fresh copies of XP and Win 7 (Dual Boot) AND I wouldn't have to spend that extra time on the phone with some microsoft guy (reactivation).

[NEOAethyr]

The gs plugin with 6 cores can use 5 threads, no diminishing returns with that .
(I thaught there would of been but there's not)

The 965be can get to 3.8ghz, but it's usually with a high end air cooler or water.
So you might not reach it, might end up getting 3.6 instead .
I almost baught one myself for my dfi 790fx ut board...

The 1090t.
I've seen people use 1.4v for 4ghz.
I didn't need quite that much.

Here's my cpu test info:

2750 11x 1.000000v, 1.04v DMM (might beable to go lower but I'm not really interested in this multi anymore)
3000 12x 1.037500v, 1.07v DMM
3250 13x 1.093750v, 1.13v DMM
3500 14x 1.159375v, 1.19v DMM
3750 15x 1.228125v, 1.26v DMM
4000 16x 1.334375v, 1.37v-1.38v DMM

1st set of voltages are bios values, the 2nd is with my multi meter.
Meter readings could be off by 0.02v, it wasn't easy to get good contact on the measure points.

I forced a single power state so I could test the cpu at it's max speed to make sure (all 6 cores forced at the voltage and speeds).
I was testing so I could eventually setup all 5 of my power states manually.
Phenom msr tweaker screws up my setup though and makes it use the 2 highest pstates at all times.
So I'll have to wait for a bios to doit right.

At the moment I can only set the last 2 pstates in the bios manually.
Normal multi and turbo multi.
Turbo mode on my asus sets all 6 cores, not just 5 or less.
Essentually it's a full power state.
I set the turbo state to 16x and the normal one to 14x.
The rest are 4x, 8x, and 12x because I can't set them correctly yet.

At least with the bios doing it it doesn't screw up and all of the states kick in correctly.
But my low end multi is 4x instead of 12x, and my low end voltages are way higher then what I really need them to be, same goes for my max.
I've got my bios'es offset vcore to the lowest setting it allows and it's still slightly higher then what I need.

I got a good cpu though lol, just a tad over 1v for 3ghz...

The vga card I swapped out this morning for stability testing, found that all my random hard locking was caused by it.
Also it preventing me from reaching real stability with my mem at 2000mhz 8-9-8-25 cmd1.

I thaught the card ran cooler then my 8600gt.
But that was only because it had 3 performance states.
On load it would reach up to 90c and sometimes hard lock because of it.
Even when I epoxied a giant heatsink to it (covers half the card).
And when it's running 28c on idle, it'll still hard lock my board on random :\.

I'm just glad to know that the vga card was the one at fault.
I just paid $80 three months ago for it though.

Anyways I'm using the stock cooler on the cpu, surprising enough to me anyways.
I don't think it's a 100% safe bet for all 1090's to get 4ghz on the stock cooler.
But it should be fine to reach for 3.75.


I'll start back on getting the game in a min here and I should have it done by morning.
(my mom uses the modem every 12hours)

At the moment, I still woudl of picked my new board and cpu.
But I don't think it was worth the extra $100 over the other core.
I defently woudl of picked the 1090t, but the cost is to much.
If you allready have 3.2-3.4ghz, wait it out for the prices to go down or for the 12 cores to come out next year sometime.

[rama]

~58FPS with no speedhacks enabled and using mVU (all default basically ).
This is with 4.12Ghz Core 2 Duo + GTX260 at x3 scaling.

   

It gets to 78FPS with the recommended speedhacks and SPU2-X set to async mixing, which works okay in this game.
Try it out, it masks some of the slowness

[NEOAethyr]

I can't get my copy to run, sorry .
Using both cores set to interpretor, I still get a crash but I get some log stuff too.


Initializing Elf: 750512 bytes
ELF (cdrom0:\SLUS_204.88;1) CRC = 23A97857
Entry point = 0x00100008
Game = Star Ocean 3 - Till the End of Time [Disc1of2] (NTSC-U)

Spams my console with stuff like this:
vtlb miss : addr 0x7FFC4, mode 0 [read]

[rama]

The gamefix doesn't work with the interpreter enabled.
Set all your recompiler settings back to default, enable the Tri-Ace gamefix and it'll work.

[NEOAethyr]

Thanks .

At the same spot rama took his screen I get 55fps in native res dx10, 8600gt.
Sound plugins async mode in that scene got me 1fps more, 56fps.

2x res + texture filtering = mid/upper 40's - 56fps.
2x res - texture filtering = 56fps, no speed drops.

I used the speed hacks marked reccomended in the emu.
Ram is running 2000mhz, 8-9-7-24, cmd1.


My vga card is running on some pretty old drivers, probably doesn't hurt it much though.

I can't take screens at the moment because I screwed something up on my os when I was stability testing :/ .
I'll beable to post screens tomarrow.

Edit:
Hmm an older core2 at 4.125'ish is beating my phenom x6 by 15-20fps...
And that's a gen behind in intel...
Almost 2 gens, considering how old those boards are, gotte be about 2years.

The vga card has some to do with it but it can't be much more in native mode.
Maybe 2-3 fps.

I'de probably have to clock another 500mhz even get close.
Eh x6 was worth it though...


I'de really like to get 8-9-6-23, cmd1 stable.
Close but not there.
The 7 that I have now actually helped out a bit in tekken5 and bloady roar 3.

That and 3.250mhz nb speed which for some reason I can't figuer out how to get stable yet.
I get 12k, 10k, and 17k in everest's benchmark.
With the higher nb speed I get over 18k.
Something a bit more respectable in terms of ddr3 bandwith.

[StriFe]

Though only drawback is that DDR3 still isn't that much faster compaired to DDR2, profit between them is about 7%. Since my 6000+ is locked I can't overclock it, also if I try to do with the FSB, I only can go up to 205 mhz everything above that it hangs But so far every game I play runs just great on pc. Only for PCSX2 my CPU is too slow my 5770 atleast brought up my speed quite well not to mention the memory increase from 2 to 6 GByte. Oh well I need to wait myself for some new hardware

[rama]

NEOAethyr:
Well, we keep preaching that for PCSX2 you'll want very fast SSE units preferably with SSE4.1.
The core count, the memory bandwith and what have you, all make nearly no difference at all

[teh poa]

bump but the orig jap snes star ocean was amashing!

[NEOAethyr]

That makes sense.
Intel still probably has a better sse setup then amd does.
That and amd still doesn't have sse3 or normal intel sse4.

Here's a screenshot in dx9 mode, 2x res and no texture filterting.
The os is win2k3 sp2 r2, just installed it today.

Frame limiting is off btw.