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DeSmuME 0.9.9
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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
(06-09-2013 02:02 AM)Scootaloo Wrote:  No idea what you're talking about. I've been playing Pokemon White 2 and I've noticed a significant speedup and others have too. However if you want to sit there and call everyone else liars then be my guest.

Here's some more then(taken from the exact same spot on both versions...using the same settings and no frame skipping enabled)

r4428

Contra 4 - 90FPS
Kingdom Hearst 358/ Days - 54FPS
Lufia Curse of the Sinistrals - 40FPS
Metal Slug 7 - 84FPS
New Super Mario - 52FPS
Phantasy Star Zero - 50FPS
Rune Factory 3 - 63FPS
Suikoden Tierkreis - 80FPS
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - Endless Frontier - 58FPS
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - Endless Frontier 2 - 52FPS

0.9.9
Contra 4 - 67FPS
Kingdom Hearst 358/ Days - 50FPS
Lufia Curse of the Sinistrals - 35FPS
Metal Slug 7 - 72FPS
New Super Mario - 42FPS
Phantasy Star Zero - 42FPS
Rune Factory 3 - 48FPS
Suikoden Tierkreis - 63FPS
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - Endless Frontier - 54FPS
Super Robot Taisen OG Saga - Endless Frontier - 48FPS

If you never used JIT builds before(0.9.9 is your first one),then yes,you will see a huge speed difference between "no jit" build on a lot of games when you enable from the Emulation Settings=>Use dynamic recompiler

06-09-2013 10:47 AM
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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
I was curious and build myself this r4428 build you talk about(and btw it's also 0.9.9 version, hence saying "0.9.9 was the first jit version somebody's used" is quite sure for everyone as 0.9.8 didn't had jit yetTongue), but my results were totally different.
I mean out of laziness I checked only Rune Factory 3 from your list, but on the opening scene I had like 70fps on r4428, 90fps on latest official release and 99fps on latest build with PGO made specifically for that test. I did all of those tests on x64 versions, as far as I remember there wasn't much if any difference in speed from 32 bit version through.

Maybe your P4 choke on something which works better on modern cpu's;p, quite similar way people with old hardware often still say ancient pcsx2 version are faster, while anyone with modern hardware will see the opposite.

Anyway my results are from underclocked amd(I dislike wasting power;p), hence it's pretty sure anything fairy new including laptops will run those any version of desmume just fine.

06-09-2013 05:42 PM
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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
Maybe you are using Software mode and your CPU is probably a lot better than my ancient P4
I get more speed when I use OGL(SoftRasterizer gives me -10 and more speed compared to OGL)

06-09-2013 05:51 PM
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DeSmuME is great but I still prefer the simplicity of No$GBA.
06-09-2013 11:43 PM
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(06-01-2013 02:51 AM)Scootaloo Wrote:  Too new? 95% of the stuff I throw at DeSmuME it can run it perfectly fine. Or were you talking about your hardware - I'm a bit lost.

I know it's been awhile (have another baby on the way, can't spend as much time online and playing emu games as I'd like) but to reply to you on this, I mean I still have fully functioning BC systems to play DS and PSP games on, so I don't keep up and thus can't give my opinion on which emu is the best.

You used PS2 as a counter example, but that's kind of... well... bad. It's a bad comparison because 90%+ of PS3's aren't even partially compatible with PS2 games, and PSN versions (while emulated) aren't true BC... you have to rebuy your games.

That's not to say I have a problem with anyone emulating DS or PSP games... there are good reasons to. Especially since Vita doesn't have true BC either.

As for DS games upscaling (also talked about before I disappeared for a couple weeks) I'll again say DS games will NOT scale well like other games. DS lacked any sort of texture filtering so you'll just be upscaling those textures. The model lines may be cleaner, but the textures will still be a pixelated mess. You can try forcing filtering, but the results will be ugly at best (as a matter of fact, you can try that in desume already, set it to OpenGL mode then force filtering through CCC or nvidia's equivalent). Since the system is designed without filtering in mind, textures rarely line up and can introduce all sorts of other artifacts, it's a mess.

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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
(06-09-2013 10:47 AM)vsub Wrote:  If you never used JIT builds before(0.9.9 is your first one),then yes,you will see a huge speed difference between "no jit" build on a lot of games when you enable from the Emulation Settings=>Use dynamic recompiler
I've been using DeSmuME for a long time so stop preaching. In previous builds nearly all games have worked fine for me and played at full speed (or near it), and as you can see in my signature I don't have an amazing computer. Like I've already told you:
(06-09-2013 02:02 AM)Scootaloo Wrote:  However if you want to sit there and call everyone else liars then be my guest.

(06-15-2013 01:03 AM)Koji Wrote:  As for DS games upscaling (also talked about before I disappeared for a couple weeks) I'll again say DS games will NOT scale well like other games. DS lacked any sort of texture filtering so you'll just be upscaling those textures. The model lines may be cleaner, but the textures will still be a pixelated mess. You can try forcing filtering, but the results will be ugly at best (as a matter of fact, you can try that in desume already, set it to OpenGL mode then force filtering through CCC or nvidia's equivalent). Since the system is designed without filtering in mind, textures rarely line up and can introduce all sorts of other artifacts, it's a mess.
That's another thing too, I'm not sure why people are so damned obsessed with upscaling. Heaven forbid that you have to see your desktop wallpaper when using an emulator Tongue.

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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
(07-08-2013 04:50 PM)Scootaloo Wrote:  I've been using DeSmuME for a long time so stop preaching.

Well someone got an attitude.
So I'm liar then(no idea what would be the point to lie)...with the newest nvidia drivers I even get less speed on 0.9.9

It's simple,0.9.9 work slower here compared to r4428,no matter what settings I try.

07-08-2013 05:54 PM
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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
(07-08-2013 05:54 PM)vsub Wrote:  Well someone got an attitude.
Trying to make fun of me isn't really helping your case. Though what else is going to help you with that over-inflated ego of yours?

(07-08-2013 05:54 PM)vsub Wrote:  So I'm liar then(no idea what would be the point to lie)...with the newest nvidia drivers I even get less speed on 0.9.9

It's simple,0.9.9 work slower here compared to r4428,no matter what settings I try.
I never called you a liar, but I definitely don't agree with you trying to say 0.9.9 is slower when in fact many others have had speed increases with 0.9.9. If the issue is only with your computer than you shouldn't be attempting to speak for everyone else.

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07-08-2013 06:24 PM
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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
(07-08-2013 06:24 PM)Scootaloo Wrote:  I never called you a liar,
You are saying it with every post...I show you my results when I use 0.9.9

(07-08-2013 06:24 PM)Scootaloo Wrote:  but I definitely don't agree with you trying to say 0.9.9 is slower when in fact many others have had speed increases with 0.9.9.
Between 0.9.8 and 0.9.9,there is but between r4428 and 0.9.9 there is a decrease in the speed HERE.

(07-08-2013 06:24 PM)Scootaloo Wrote:  If the issue is only with your computer than you shouldn't be attempting to speak for everyone else.

And can you show me where exactly I was speaking for everyone else.
Every time I was talking about my results but I guess this is how you understand the posts.

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RE: DeSmuME 0.9.9
(07-08-2013 06:57 PM)vsub Wrote:  Between 0.9.8 and 0.9.9,there is but between r4428 and 0.9.9 there is a decrease in the speed HERE.
Ok, now I see what you are trying to say. Now that I'm understanding you better, where did you get that build (r4428)? did you compile/build it yourself or get it from somewhere else?

(07-08-2013 06:57 PM)vsub Wrote:  And can you show me where exactly I was speaking for everyone else.
Every time I was talking about my results but I guess this is how you understand the posts.
It seemed like you were implying it, but if you weren't then I'll take your word for it.

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