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My new rig with the FX8150
#1
Hi guys,

yes, it has been discussed several times.
But it always seems to depend on the other hardware.

So I hope no one minds if I ask for my situation, here's the rig:

AMD FX-8150 (Bulldozer @3,6GHZ)
Nvidia GTX 580 AMP!2
16GB DDR3 1866 RAM
120GB SSD S-ATA3
Soundblaster Recon3D
Win7 HomePr. 64bit

Should I change the CPU to an older AMD, like the phenom II x4 or x6?
I mainly use this PC for pcsx2 and I'm wondering, what the performance difference would be compared to the older cpus.
Since I want to play Shadof of Colossus I need every single frame Biggrin
. Win 7 Prof. 64bit .
. 8GB OCZ DDR3-1333 RAM .
. Zotac GTX 580 AMP .
. AMD Phenom x4 965 .
. 64GB OCZ MLC SSD .


PS: Forgive my english. I´m german. Unsure
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#2
The question is basically answered in the stickies.

CPU benchmark

Quote:62.02 FPS - SLUS 20672 - AMD FX-8120 - 4.7 GHz OC (2 Modules, Turbo Boost OFF) - azerty16
61.30 FPS - SLUS 20672 - AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE - 4.2 GHz OC - Rezard

54.05 FPS - SLUS 20672 - AMD Phenom II X2 555 Black Edition - 3.6 GHz OC -denimu
44.69 FPS - SLUS 20672 - AMD FX-4100 - 3.6 GHz Stock (Turbo Boost OFF, DDR3 1600 MHz) - lexm1

47.69 FPS - SLUS 20672 - AMD Phenom II X4 955 - 3.2 GHz Stock- Ryner Lute
42.67 FPS - SLUS 20672 - AMD FX-8120 - 3.1 GHz Stock (Turbo Boost OFF) - azerty16

Overall, the FX is worse with PCSX2.

With the proper setup for the extra clockrate,
a Bullbozer can compare to a Phenom II.

When compared clock-for-clock,
a Phenom II seems to beat AMD's latest FX processors.

At the end of the day,
the Phenom II costs less, always wins clock-for-clock,
and seems to take less effort for the relative overclock.

Personally, I'd be using the Phenom II for PCSX2 to run as fast as possible there.
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#3
you did buy an HDD for storage right ?
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(04-12-2012, 08:24 AM)abdo123 Wrote: you did buy an HDD for storage right ?

yep, but since it's a slc ssd it wouldn't be necessary...

Ok, it seems that I have to overclock the bulldozer and hope for the best...
Maybe I'll replace the FX wit the phenom II... or not.


But let's look at the FPS. In the benchmark I see fps like 40, 50.
This is still fluent, I won't notice any jiggling? (<-is that the right english word for everything under 21 fps? Biggrin )

As long as it's fluent...


Edit: One more question. When I just look at the graphiccard and the cpu. GTX580 and the FX8150. Do the FPS really drop that hard just because of the cpu?
. Win 7 Prof. 64bit .
. 8GB OCZ DDR3-1333 RAM .
. Zotac GTX 580 AMP .
. AMD Phenom x4 965 .
. 64GB OCZ MLC SSD .


PS: Forgive my english. I´m german. Unsure
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(04-12-2012, 08:42 AM)Yosuke30 Wrote: yep, but since it's a slc ssd it wouldn't be necessary...

Ok, it seems that I have to overclock the bulldozer and hope for the best...
Maybe I'll replace the FX wit the phenom II... or not.


But let's look at the FPS. In the benchmark I see fps like 40, 50.
This is still fluent, I won't notice any jiggling? (<-is that the right english word for everything under 21 fps? Biggrin )

As long as it's fluent...


Edit: One more question. When I just look at the graphiccard and the cpu. GTX580 and the FX8150. Do the FPS really drop that hard just because of the cpu?

60 FPS in this demanding benchmark = ~90 FPS in SotC without speed hacks !
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#6
As Rezard said above the Phenom II will beat the FX 8150 in a clock - clock battle,

So use your Phenom II.

I personally prefer the FX since Its overclock celling is higher than the Phenom II because of the Manufacturing 32nm process uses less power.

I compared the Phenom II x6 3.2GHz and the FX 3.6 overclocking capability's and Hands down if you can overclock your Phenom II past the FX it beats the FX but unfortunately the Phenom hits a ceiling that the FX doesn't have so in the end it depends on what kind of cooling system you have and how far the length between the Phenom and the FX.

FX is faulty hardware. But SSE2 on phenom compared to SSE4.1 While the FX is overlclocked past a certain point that the phenom can't.

Go with your phenom buddy, until I can get my second computer and have water cooling to provide the benchmarks.

Which water cooling should I use?

CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835181016

Antec KUHLER H2O 920 Liquid Cooling System
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835209054

Or should i wait get this:
CORSAIR H100 (CWCH100) Extreme Performance Liquid CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6835181017
and
COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811119239
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(04-12-2012, 09:21 AM)Kiaos Wrote: As Rezard said above the Phenom II will beat the FX 8150 in a clock - clock battle,

So use your Phenom II.

I personally prefer the FX since Its overclock celling is higher than the Phenom II because of the Manufacturing 32nm process uses less power.

I compared the Phenom II x6 3.2GHz and the FX 3.6 overclocking capability's and Hands down if you can overclock your Phenom II past the FX it beats the FX but unfortunately the Phenom hits a ceiling that the FX doesn't have so in the end it depends on what kind of cooling system you have and how far the length between the Phenom and the FX.

FX is faulty hardware. But SSE2 on phenom compared to SSE4.1 While the FX is overlclocked past a certain point that the phenom can't.

Go with your phenom buddy, until I can get my second computer and have water cooling to provide the benchmarks. [/align]

consume less power , higher OC selling that freaking monster consume about 200w @ 4.6 GHz ( maximum OC )

there is 60% chance that 8-pin cable will burn down if you OC above 4 GHz AND 90 % chance IF ABOVE 4.4 GHz

and no matter who much cooling you have it is just not going to run stable @ above 4.6 GHz ! Wacko

@OP :

are you sure you don't have enough money for SB

63.12 FPS - SLUS 20672 - Intel Core i3 2100 - 3.1 GHz Stock - Shadow Lady
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#8
Quote:are you sure you don't have enough money for SB

Right now I'm working on completing my Phenom II and FX systems, so I can compare, my third system will be a Intel.

Here is my plan

This is my 2010 system I started a long time ago in a galaxy far far away,

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Upgraded USB 3.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811129021

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819103849

MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3+ AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813130274

G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231416

Two SAPPHIRE Flex 100328FLEX Radeon HD 6770 1GB GDDR5 in crossfire (I used to have 1 5770 but i sold it to a friend.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814102938

hec Zephyr MX 750 750W Peak Output ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817339002

Patriot Wildfire PW120GS25SSDR 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC (SSD) (Gets bad Reviews don't get it unless you upgrade to latest firmware otherwise it's a 7.9 SSD on WEI)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820220599

This is my 2011-2012 system with AM3+ theme:

COOLER MASTER HAF X Blue Edition RC-942-KKN3 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6811119239

AMD FX-8150 Zambezi 3.6GHz Socket AM3+ 125W Eight-Core Desktop Processor (My Grandma Bought it before I had a chance to decided if I wanted sandy bridge.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819103960

MSI 990FXA-GD80 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard (Buy this if Your Phenom II SLI and UEFI I may use this latter with my Phenom II)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813130600

G.SKILL Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 (PC3 17000) Desktop Memory Model F3-17000CL9D-8GBSR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820231518

Patriot Wildfire PW120GS25SSDR 2.5" 120GB SATA III MLC (SSD) (Gets bad Reviews don't get it unless you upgrade to latest firmware otherwise it's a 7.9 SSD on WEI)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820220599

EVGA 02G-P4-2680-KR GeForce GTX 680 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6814130768

hec Zephyr MX 750 750W Peak Output ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6817339002

So that's what my plan is or was.

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#9
Sorry to interrupt you two Biggrin
Can someone answer my last question?

(04-12-2012, 08:42 AM)Yosuke30 Wrote: Edit: One more question. When I just look at the graphiccard and the cpu. GTX580 and the FX8150. Do the FPS really drop that hard just because of the cpu?

Thanks
. Win 7 Prof. 64bit .
. 8GB OCZ DDR3-1333 RAM .
. Zotac GTX 580 AMP .
. AMD Phenom x4 965 .
. 64GB OCZ MLC SSD .


PS: Forgive my english. I´m german. Unsure
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(04-12-2012, 10:26 AM)Yosuke30 Wrote: Sorry to interrupt you two Biggrin
Can someone answer my last question?


Thanks

yes because AMD failed to Make their new architecture work with windows 7 natively they shot themselves in the foot and when you take that 580 and use a phenom II at the same clock speed you will get better fps.

But if you use this processor and overclock with SSE4 you get better FPS depending on Overclock value. oh and yes SSE4 and SSE2 are like night and Day. I had my Phenom with SSE2 and it was slow, and with my FX SSE4 was way faster.
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