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New laptop for PCSX2 advice
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I'm looking at 2 laptops one with the geforce gtx 285m the other with the ATi 5870 mobility. The ATi is 128 bit with GDDR5 and the nvidia is 256 bit(bus) with GDDR3. Any advice as to which will perform better with PCSX2? Thanks guys.

Heres stats:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/ATI-Mobilit...073.0.html

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http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeFo...822.0.html
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#2
Other stats of notebooks:

Both have i7-720QM (1.6ghz~ turbo2.8GHz,) w/6M L3 Cache BUS processor
One has 4gigs of DDR3 @ 1333mhz the other has 8 gigs of DDR3 @ 1066mhz
Both have 7200 RPM HDDs
Both running Win 7 64 Bit...might dual boot with XP 32 bit

Can anyone give me an idea of how these guys will perform with PS2 emulation in general(depending on vid card obviously)
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#3
(02-21-2010, 04:38 PM)irishsj Wrote: Other stats of notebooks:

Both have i7-720QM (1.6ghz~ turbo2.8GHz,) w/6M L3 Cache BUS processor
One has 4gigs of DDR3 @ 1333mhz the other has 8 gigs of DDR3 @ 1066mhz
Both have 7200 RPM HDDs
Both running Win 7 64 Bit...might dual boot with XP 32 bit

Can anyone give me an idea of how these guys will perform with PS2 emulation in general(depending on vid card obviously)

IMO the 5870 slightly beats the 285GTX and also is a bit futureproof which allows Directx11. But Directx11 for PCSX2 is only alpha now, im just referring directx11 for PC intended games.

Also i bought recently for a very resonable priced laptop with i7 720, ati 5870, 8gb ram, for 1499.00 US.

check out
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6834220695

although it has gone up $100.00 since i purchased but still good price
OS: Win Vista 64bit. Proc: Intel Q9400. 4gb ram. Sli 9800S
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#4
Being 1,6ghz with turbo boost, I heard the i7-720QM runs at 2.4ghz when using 2 cores. From what I've been told that'd be too slow for most games... how does it perform in practice, anyone can testify ?
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(02-21-2010, 07:35 PM)leviathon6425 Wrote:
(02-21-2010, 04:38 PM)irishsj Wrote: Other stats of notebooks:

Both have i7-720QM (1.6ghz~ turbo2.8GHz,) w/6M L3 Cache BUS processor
One has 4gigs of DDR3 @ 1333mhz the other has 8 gigs of DDR3 @ 1066mhz
Both have 7200 RPM HDDs
Both running Win 7 64 Bit...might dual boot with XP 32 bit

Can anyone give me an idea of how these guys will perform with PS2 emulation in general(depending on vid card obviously)

IMO the 5870 slightly beats the 285GTX and also is a bit futureproof which allows Directx11. But Directx11 for PCSX2 is only alpha now, im just referring directx11 for PC intended games.

Also i bought recently for a very resonable priced laptop with i7 720, ati 5870, 8gb ram, for 1499.00 US.

check out
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6834220695

although it has gone up $100.00 since i purchased but still good price

That Asus is the one that I want but I would be getting from powernotebook instead of newegg to be able to further customize it. I may go with a Sager/Clevo with the 285m to be able to get a 15inch laptop since that 17 inch Asus is a beast.
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#6
IMO the nVidia would be the best bet. I guess i think that mostly because I've read the PCSX2 dev(s) use nVidia themselves (therefor more compatable, in a sense) I can tell you from experience, a GT 230m works well (not claiming "prefect", but the temp stays low) for all games that are capable of running on PCSX2 according to forums/compatability list. I think my CPU holds me back more than my GPU.

As far as the i7, I can't image that would be better than my C2D 2.8GHz. If the i7 only "Turbo Boosts" up to 2.4GHz, I would expect it to be worse. But again, this is just my opinion. BTW look for my laptop on Newegg, only $999. A good price for a good laptop (there has been nothing I can't play aside from obvious emulation exceptions).
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#7
Build a desktop lol.

But in all seriousness I play games on both my laptop and my desktop, and it suffers a lot when I play on my laptop with the current specs. It fared no better on my xps m1530 with an 8600m gt, but, that was old now lol.

I believe you can check wiki on SS2-3-4 etc, but IIRC you can use SS4 on intel cores which offers more of a performance boost. Thats core only. I honestly don't know how much of an effect it will have, but with a quick google check the 5870 appears better.

IMO, I would get the 5870 for futureproof (but this is a laptop so not much of an issue), and because ATI has treated me well as opposed to nVidia.
Laptop
Intel Core 2 Duo PM8600 @ 2.4 GHz
4 GB DDR3 1066 RAM
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670 512 MB

Desktop
AMD Phenom II x2 550 (unlocked to 4)@ 3.5ghz
4 GB DDR3 1600 RAM
Sapphire 5770 1GB
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#8
My desktop is a 4870X2 with 8 gigs, quad 9650 etc etc I need this laptop for work. I barely work and just play games all day lol
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#9
I highly recommend getting the ati. It takes less power so expect longer life. You also have to face heating issues with any gaming notebook with nvidia in it decreasing performance.

The G73JH Asus notebook is probably the only gaming laptop that doesn't overheat. You will not get temperatures higher then 71C no matter what you do (unless you overclock it using the 920xm) and this is without any added thermal compound. I've been keeping up with everything involving this thing and I impressed at this machine. Truly a beast.

Customize it
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And HERE is everything you may want to know about it.

As for the turbo mode clock speeds:

720qm
2.8ghz single mode (saw it can get up to 2.9)
2.4 dual core mode
1.73 quad mode which is a little weak

820qm
3.06 single mode
2.8ghz dual mode
somewhere around 2ghz quad mode

920xm is overclockable
3.20ghz single mode
3.06ghz dual mode
2.22 ghz quad mode (or somewhere around there).

EDIT: quad mode is good if more then 6 threads are being used. Rendering with all 8 is insanely fast. I've seen someone oc the 920xm at 4ghz (if you have the money). With everything that has been talked about on this machine, I expect there shouldn't be any heating issues with a thermal upgrade. Because of the design though, I'm not sure if a notebook cooler will help.
Windows 7 - Asus G73jh-a1 - 17-720qm @ 1.6 GHz (2.8 GHz)(2.4ghz)(1.73ghz) - ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 @ 700/1000 (sometimes oc to 800/1100) - 8 gig ram
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#10
- Don't waste money on a laptop. If you need something mobile, buy a common laptop AND a powerful desktop for the same price.
- If you have to buy that overpriced thing, go with the ATI card.
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