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New system for pcsx2: Compatability test n thoughts please!
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A buddy of mine is going to be buying my old all onboard mobo+chip+ram that I'm currently using, hes looking for a decent system to run some basic games at a lower end price.. as mines a couple years dated I seen it as a good opertunity to upgrade my computer from a system that can barely use pcsx2 to one that should be able to rip it up Tongue

That being said, I haven't worked on the hardware aspect of computers in some years, I've built mine a couple family memebers and some co workers/jobs years ago, but was years ago.

What I'm looking to buy, is not a package, but just the mobo & chip, I already got a case ect for alot of things, extras include power supply/Ram(prob wana start with 1x1-2gb)/Harddrive(Under 70, over 500mb)

So, basicly me looking around with my now dated and noobish eyes, am looking into the realm of quad to six core cpus and mobos, verse my amd dual core that I'm currently using. I'm kinda cought up betwen the difference's betwen the athlon II amd3 socket quad cores and the AMD Phenom II socket amd2+ quad cores with L3 Cache 6mb or/and L1 Cache 4 x 128KB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...103-809-TS

So I've heard that, that athlon core verse the phenoms xtra L3 and L1 cache, when clocked to same speed runs at 95% efficent as the phenom, I would need a confermation of this however, but this would suggest that I go with an athlon II to save the xtra 1/3ds price, just as I don't need the best one out there, I'm looking to get the most out of my money and 5% doesn't deem a 33% rise of price if this logic is followed and true, in my books... But I want a system that can use pcsx2 well

Asuming the athlon II core is what I'm going with,
( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819103704 )
it brings me to the difference's betwen the two, ones 2.6 quad others 2.8quad, both amd3, aside of that I found no difference, thus I should pick the higher one and it should work in any one of these mobos:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcom...131-608-TS

Truth be told I can't really tell most of the difference's betwen them, I mean most of the 49 buck ones got all the same stuff as the 69-79 ones, in theory the only things I need to look for are athlon II socket and pci-e orginal (1x I asume?) as I don't feel like buying another vid card, mines ATI 512mb, so I'm looking at ATI onboard video as I don't want to deal with nivida onboard.

Apon looking at the list, I was thinking this mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813131595
Or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6813128394

So that would be the top (or bottem) mobo with this chip:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6819103704

I was also need to know if this stick of ram is compatable with the cpu and motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6820104007

And this harddrive:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...6822152227

So .. The motherboard says it has athlon II as well as it says it covers DDR2 1200 (OC) / 1066 /800 / 667 in my theiroy it should all workout and be fine if I use 800 (higher=faster tho at same gbs?). However, it also says that the cpu is 95wat and that the mobo is 125wat, does this mean max wat.. or is that cpu not going to work with it?

Recap:
Looking to spend around 100 tops on mobo and cpu each, so I'm looking for my best value within those lines, I don't want to say cheapest I can go, but cheapest I can go with still making a good system, I don't need that top xtra 10-5% for a large amount more, looking for the best overall value of proformance verse price, however I'm only getting a couple hun for my gear so I don't want to brake my own pocket book paying xtra ontop what hes giving me for this, so I can upgrade, but I've been running pcsx2 on my dual core.. and its.. not nice on most games.. The real reason for me wanting to spend xtra money ontop and selling him mine is so I can run things like this from my pc as well as some computer gfx work.
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#2
Just put in items in a public wishlist so its easier to see. As for the difference between an Athlon II and a Phenom II, see 4 yourself:
http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_p..._2,18.html
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#3
For PCSX2, a dual-core i3-530 would actually work better. It doesn't really take advantage of extra cores but it seems to prefer Intel's Nehalem/Westmere microarchitecture rather than AMD's.

For general performance, I'd go Phenom II X4.
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#4
Just so you know that onbaord video card is not going to do you any good in running pcsx2 and other pc games.

Your ram is fine for the motherbaords that support DDR 2, and the difference of those number (1066,800,667) is actually not very big performace-wise.

For your initial choices of cpu, the 2.6 and 2.8 one, if you are planning to overclock it, the 2.6 one is going to be the same as the 2.8ghz one. If not, you may want to think about overclocking since it will give you better performace in pcsx2. Otherwise, 2.8ghz is the better choice.

Quote:However, it also says that the cpu is 95wat and that the mobo is 125wat, does this mean max wat.. or is that cpu not going to work with it?
The cpu is going to work with it, or you can check the motherboarod's cpu support list just to be sure.
AMD Athlon II 245 @ 3.55ghz, 9600GT @730mhz 1115mhz, vista sp2 32bit
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#5
If it's for PCSX2, it should be Intel based.
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(06-13-2010, 07:55 AM)rama Wrote: If it's for PCSX2, it should be Intel based.

would a PII quad have a problem with this then? Apon looking at it some more (Thanks for that chart btw) I'm thinking I may just fork out the xtra 20 bucks and get the P II
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(06-13-2010, 10:12 AM)Affro Wrote:
(06-13-2010, 07:55 AM)rama Wrote: If it's for PCSX2, it should be Intel based.

would a PII quad have a problem with this then? Apon looking at it some more (Thanks for that chart btw) I'm thinking I may just fork out the xtra 20 bucks and get the P II

I would definitly go for the phenom II quad.
It's not wise to build a pc soly for pcsx2.
Just overclock the cpu and you should be fine.
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