Oh I see then. I wonder if sony purposely made their system this complicated . > < Though I honestly figured the creators could do such a thing in a snap. Oh well.

(04-25-2009 05:58 PM)Akira420 Wrote:  Oh I see then. I wonder if sony purposely made their system this complicated . > < Though I honestly figured the creators could do such a thing in a snap. Oh well.

It makes itself complicated lol.

I'm sure the Sony programmers have no problem making a PS2 emulator, the problem is making it run at acceptable speeds. Any CS major should (in theory) be able to whip up an interpreter-style emulator given that Sony has all of the original PS2 design information, but creating the core of emulators like PCSX2 (called either a recompiler or a binary translator) is a skill that isn't common.

So if someone where to steal the original ps2 design specs then a perfect emulator could be made?! Off to japan!! > D

so, who want to be the angel of pcsx2 and the devil of the court?

steal it steal it steal it

(04-23-2009 11:09 AM)Saiki Wrote:  

(04-23-2009 11:04 AM)Bositman Wrote:  Maybe think how old the PSX system is, then see why everything runs at 150+ fps with todays PCs Also, after all these years there are quite a few problems still in PS1 emulation, which shows how hard (impossible actually) it is to achieve 'perfect' emulation

yes, like runing it on vista 60fps tops on ntsc U/C games for me. I'm pissed

Oh you and your Vista hate!

Sony also most likely had an easier time making a software emulator for the PS3 because PS3 chips are probably designed more closely to PS2 chips than PC processors, so there probably wasn't a lot of special code and stuff they had to write like our glorious overlords here at PCSX2 have to do

(05-01-2009 06:53 AM)KrazyTrumpeter05 Wrote:  

(04-23-2009 11:09 AM)Saiki Wrote:  

(04-23-2009 11:04 AM)Bositman Wrote:  Maybe think how old the PSX system is, then see why everything runs at 150+ fps with todays PCs Also, after all these years there are quite a few problems still in PS1 emulation, which shows how hard (impossible actually) it is to achieve 'perfect' emulation

yes, like runing it on vista 60fps tops on ntsc U/C games for me. I'm pissed

Oh you and your Vista hate!

if a 1.86 MONOCORE laptop (xp) can do 200 fps and my DUAL core 2.2 vista desktop can't I have a reason to hate vista

Quote:So if someone where to steal the original ps2 design specs then a perfect emulator could be made?! Off to japan!! > D

afaik, Ps1, Ps2 and Ps3 have many different to a normal PC. For an easy example: a PC would see PI=3.14159, and PS2 will see PI=3.141592653.., so the goal to emulate PS2 on PC is made PC see that PI like PS2 ( for example only, it's not real ) ).
Even if we know about ps2 design spec ( I thought we knew it already ), we cannot make a perfect emulator, because of the different between those two.

Nowaday, PC's hardware has enough power to run Ps1 game, that why most of them have a playable speed.
And last, it's my opinion only

(05-01-2009 06:46 PM)Funnnny Wrote:  Nowaday, PC's hardware has enough power to run Ps1 game, that why most of them have a playable speed.
And last, it's my opinion only

they have enough power to run 5 oof them at the same time. or one at 200fps+

Yeah, that's because the PC's spec are growing fast. Someday we will have enough power to run PS2 game, and hope about Ps3 emulator

Saiki:
On my machine, using XP32, Vista32 and Vista64, testing around 50 games regularly, I can say you're doing it wrong.
Vista does NOT make pcsx2 slower! GSdx's DirectX9 mode with its z-fighting and slowness otoh IS a problem. Go figure.

And this is not a random thing either, so don't assume I was just lucky or smth.