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Phenon II vs Athlon II
#1
Hi,
I want to know if PCSX2 profits by the 6mb cache which the Athlon II don't have. And in how far the Phenom profits if he does.
I know that the new Games for PC work better with the phenom but i dont know if it is the same with PCSX2.
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#2
its the same with Phenom..
especially the Black Edition..
can be OC to 3.5Ghz with proper cooling and runs pcsx2 like a champ
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#3
If it makes a difference it's very very minimal, you're better off OCing that Athlon II if you were planning on upgrading.
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#4
Cache, and mem timings will help but not by to much.
The best boost you can get is by clock speed and cores.
And then vga card for res modes higher then native.

You could pick up a $100 quad core and clock that up to 3ghz+.
Or just clock what you got allready and see how that goes.

A 3ghz dual might be decent enough for the time being.
I don't know I couldn't get mine that high, mine always ran hot.

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#5
it has been mentioned many times in the forum!!!

nobody will benefit in pcsx2 emulation from more than 2 cores. so actually the best thing someone can use is a core2duo with high clocks or an i series cpu with 2 cores as well and high clocks

edit: i am mentioning the intel cpu's couse they are faster clock for clock than the amd ones... ofc the same thing as above goes for the amd cpu's
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#6
I've been keeping on eye on TMonitor once in a while in pcsx2.
It does indeed use all 6 of my cores in hardware mode.
2 cores are being directly used by pcsx2.
While the others are from windows.
It's not allways using more then 2 cores though.

Looks like it uses about 2ghz for each core.
Sometimes up to around 3.3ghz for one of the cores.
It likely differs from one game to the next and so on.
(I've got c1e and c&q enabled so I can see the clocks change in realtime for all 6 cores)


I think it could benifit form more then 2 cores, just a little bit...

The spu plugin (spu-2x doesn't seem to run in a seperate thread but there's another spu plugin that does).
Potential future dvd-rom plugins...

And windows background stuffs.
Like irq's, misc software running in the background, audio (sound cards generally uses some cpu...).
Some board drive controller's use the cpu quite a bit on dual cores.

Saving states, switching from the pcsx2 gs window to say my browser window uses more then 2 cores (you could be checking your dl's or whatever).


Plus, pc gaming on dual cores... ^^, 3ghz would probably cut it.
But it's probably better just to spend the extra 60$ on more cores...

I got a 720p video with advanced subs that will bring a 2.5ghz x2 to it's knees.
Just general stuff, it's nicer to have more then 2 cores with sometimes.

That and generally quad's use there core's a bit more efficiantly.
Other then some boards overheating with quad's... (pwm)

I'm not saying you need a quad or anything.
Just that it's probably a good idea to get one over a dual core.
There's not much of a price diffrence between a cheap quad that can do 3ghz and a dual core that can do the 3ghz.
$100, or $50...
Your choice I guess.

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(07-23-2010, 03:05 AM)NEOAethyr Wrote: I've been keeping on eye on TMonitor once in a while in pcsx2.
It does indeed use all 6 of my cores in hardware mode.
2 cores are being directly used by pcsx2.
While the others are from windows.
It's not allways using more then 2 cores though.

Looks like it uses about 2ghz for each core.
Sometimes up to around 3.3ghz for one of the cores.
It likely differs from one game to the next and so on.
(I've got c1e and c&q enabled so I can see the clocks change in realtime for all 6 cores)


I think it could benifit form more then 2 cores, just a little bit...

what you actually see is windows trying to share the load to all the cores. but the actual maximum "load" that can be used is 2 cores at ~100%
so if you have a quad core you will see all 4 cores at 50% with 6 cores 33,333...% the other tiny things you saw also was windows doing its thingy
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#8
u can use software mode and use 3 thread to render the GS instead of 1
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#9
yeah but still most games will run very bad whatever cpu he has.... except maybe from a very crazy OC but image will suck
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#10
Actually games will generally run at full speed with 5 thread around 4ghz.

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