(08-31-2010 08:19 AM)rahul.deadmanzzz Wrote:  

(08-31-2010 08:12 AM)Shibuhya Wrote:  Like frosty said, you would only need two cores so get the i3, but don't get careless, i3 is not i3 if you know what I mean. Get one with a high clocking (2.8 GHz and above) to get good results in both games and PCSX2 emulation. I think it's a big hype about cpu's since dual cores can do the same as quad cores nowadays with the right clocking. Also do not get a OEM pc, I have the prob, that I cannot improve my crappy 2.3 GHz quad core by overclocking because acer locks up this features. Buy one freely by building your own machiene with alternate.com or else.

what do u mean by "i3 is not i3"... I 3 is available in high clocking speed? Right?? AND WHAT do you men by "OEM pc"?? AND pls Explain me about locking features....

I mean that i3 comes in different clocking speeds, cache sizes and frequenzys, so a high power i3 is better than a low one. OEM PC means one from the local tech market build into a full system (a new pc I mean) with acer you won't be able to overclock if you need to because acer restricts doing so by disabling overclocking features on their mainboards.

And no you do not have to buy it seperatly, its depending on you mainboard, if it supports it it will be notced in the manual oder in the features section of the product desciption wherever you buy it. With SLI two shafts are comniable to one shaft using 2 cards as one.

(08-31-2010 08:13 AM)rahul.deadmanzzz Wrote:  

(08-31-2010 08:01 AM)frosty5689 Wrote:  If it's only for gaming, I'd get the i3. It is cheaper, supports SSE 4 just like Core 2 Quad QX9xxx series. It is also fairly cheap (cheaper than Core 2 Quad and AMD Phenom in most cases. You only need 2 core for gaming as little to no game have optimizations to use more than 2 cores. PCSX2 atm only uses 2 cores also. In terms of GPU, I'd suggest the budget GTX 460 1GB (768MB if you really want to save 20-30dollars). If you can afford it get 2 GTX 460 and hook it up with SLI along with a 750watts PSU. i3s use LGA 1156 Socket motherboards, so make sure you get the right one. In terms of brand for the mobo, ASUS is a good choice, offering you lots of overclocking capability (after you replace your stock heatsink with a high-end aftermarket air cooler), don't get Intel boards unless you want to have functions locked. In terms of brand for a GPU, if you're getting Nvidia, I'd go with EVGA. Go with MSI/ASUS if you want "native" support for GPU overclocking (ASUS has an unlocked BIOS which allows voltage tweaking with their ASUS Smartdoctor utility and MSI has MSI Afterburner (works for other brands too), but doesn't let you tweak the voltage and only the clock speed and memclock). If you want ATI, I'd get a HD 5870, it'll perform nicely for $400 dollars. If you're worried about the PSU brand, go with Corsair if you don't mind the extra cost, or OCZ if you're on low budget. Getting 4GB of DDR2 memory is more than enough for gaming, brand again is Corsair, G.Skill for higher quality and OCZ for budget (not saying they're crap, but they're cheaper). That's about the gist of it. For the case I'd get a Antec 900, HAF 9xx series, or whatever you like that's a midtower and above. If you're in USA, getting parts on http://www.newegg.com is good and if you're near a microcenter you can get your CPU cheap. If you live in Canada http://www.ncix.com has everything you'll need. Anywhere else, you're on your own.

Man.. i dint get these.." If you can afford it get 2 GTX 460 and hook it up with SLI along with a 750watts PSU" and these " In terms of brand for the mobo, ASUS is a good choice, offering you lots of overclocking capability (after you replace your stock heatsink with a high-end aftermarket air cooler), don't get Intel boards unless you want to have functions locked. In terms of brand for a GPU, if you're getting Nvidia, I'd go with EVGA"

U mean i can play with 2 gtx cards??and what does PSU mean?? and about clocking speed, intel core 3 offers which one...Heatsink or anything else.....does this air cooler count anyway?? and what do u mean by "FUNCTIONS LOCKED"... one more thing... about GPU what r the other types/ i mean evga and ????... I thought GPu is a Gpu!! it counts only in memory!! is it not like that??

Thanks man.....expecting reply...

Let's see.. Nvidia and ATI now-a-days have this technology called SLI/CrossfireX which allows the system to utlize more than one GPU for graphics processing (includes gaming) if the program is optimized to take advantage of SLI/CrossfireX. Now, this doesn't benefit PCSX2, but it'll benefit your other games significantly compared to just having 1 graphics card. The 750watts powersupply (PSU) is what's needed at minimum to power 2 GTX 460s. As for brand, getting EVGA, ASUS, MSI should do fine. If you're into ATI cards you'd have to ask someone else for their opinion, I myself never bought nor owned a ATI gpu in my life.

Now, onto the i3 thing. You'd want i3 550 if you can afford the extra cost for a factory clock of 3.2Ghz. If you're on a budget getting i3 530 is fine also, it is factory clocked at 2.93Ghz. This goes without saying if you buy a good aftermarket cooler like Noctua NH-D14, or H50/H70 (push and pull setup), you can easily overclock the i3 530 to 3.6Ghz and maybe beyond. In terms of the functions locked, most Intel motherboards locks the ability to overclock your cpu which will greatly limit how much you can boost the performance of your cpu without buying a new one.

Finally, in terms of how the GPU's speed comes into play. As far as I know, the GPU's core clocks are the most important in terms of the GPU's speed, the next thing is the shader clock (only on Nvidia GPUs I believe), and lastly the memory clock (this determines how fast data is transfered between the GPU Core and the dedicated memory on the GPU). The bigger the GPU dedicated memory is the higher resolution you can play your games at. Say... GTA 4 needs at least 1.2GB GPU RAM for you to play it at 1920x1080 with max settings.

By the way I am from India..

Thank u guys.... Frosty suggested i3 550....Anyone knows their price....I mean mother board and processor only....

goolge around, you will find cheap ones by browsing hardware shops on the net

(08-31-2010 08:25 AM)frosty5689 Wrote:  

(08-31-2010 08:13 AM)rahul.deadmanzzz Wrote:  

Let's see.. Nvidia and ATI now-a-days have this technology called SLI/CrossfireX which allows the system to utlize more than one GPU for graphics processing (includes gaming) if the program is optimized to take advantage of SLI/CrossfireX. Now, this doesn't benefit PCSX2, but it'll benefit your other games significantly compared to just having 1 graphics card. The 750watts powersupply (PSU) is what's needed at minimum to power 2 GTX 460s. As for brand, getting EVGA, ASUS, MSI should do fine. If you're into ATI cards you'd have to ask someone else for their opinion, I myself never bought nor owned a ATI gpu in my life.

Now, onto the i3 thing. You'd want i3 550 if you can afford the extra cost for a factory clock of 3.2Ghz. If you're on a budget getting i3 530 is fine also, it is factory clocked at 2.93Ghz. This goes without saying if you buy a good aftermarket cooler like Noctua NH-D14, or H50/H70 (push and pull setup), you can easily overclock the i3 530 to 3.6Ghz and maybe beyond. In terms of the functions locked, most Intel motherboards locks the ability to overclock your cpu which will greatly limit how much you can boost the performance of your cpu without buying a new one.

Finally, in terms of how the GPU's speed comes into play. As far as I know, the GPU's core clocks are the most important in terms of the GPU's speed, the next thing is the shader clock (only on Nvidia GPUs I believe), and lastly the memory clock (this determines how fast data is transfered between the GPU Core and the dedicated memory on the GPU). The bigger the GPU dedicated memory is the higher resolution you can play your games at. Say... GTA 4 needs at least 1.2GB GPU RAM for you to play it at 1920x1080 with max settings.

U suggest me GTX 460.... so air coolers can increase the capacity of clockspeed???? I didnt know that!! if i buy Noctua NH-d14, will my clockspeed be automatically increased or has it to be done manually??? if an I3 has 2.93 ghz can i really increase it?? will these functions be locked in this I3 or not?? how much will this cooler cost??

The better cooling you have the higher your *potential* to increase your clock speed gets. This has to be manually and is a dangerous process if you don't know what you're doing, you could fry your processor. Overclocking options are provided by the motherboard you get, so if you get a high end overclocking motherboard you'll have many powerful overclocking options while if you get a cheap OEM motherboard there won't be any.

Just for reference, it costs $149.99 USD on newegg.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...k=i3%20550

Just out of curiosity I looked up the cost of i5 760 (Quad Core, no integrated GPU which saves power and you don't need a intergrated gpu). It costs $209.99 USD. Just an option if you want the newest generation of CPU and get the most out of it for a little bit more cost (since you don't really want that integrated gpu)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product

In terms of mobo... ASUS P7P55 LX or ASUS P7P55-D will both do. The -D costs more but they're both resonable. Both support DDR3, which gives you faster RAM access (DDR2 and DDR3 cost about the same now, just a few more bucks)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.as...-_-Product

(08-31-2010 08:39 AM)rahul.deadmanzzz Wrote:  

(08-31-2010 08:25 AM)frosty5689 Wrote:  Let's see.. Nvidia and ATI now-a-days have this technology called SLI/CrossfireX which allows the system to utlize more than one GPU for graphics processing (includes gaming) if the program is optimized to take advantage of SLI/CrossfireX. Now, this doesn't benefit PCSX2, but it'll benefit your other games significantly compared to just having 1 graphics card. The 750watts powersupply (PSU) is what's needed at minimum to power 2 GTX 460s. As for brand, getting EVGA, ASUS, MSI should do fine. If you're into ATI cards you'd have to ask someone else for their opinion, I myself never bought nor owned a ATI gpu in my life.

Now, onto the i3 thing. You'd want i3 550 if you can afford the extra cost for a factory clock of 3.2Ghz. If you're on a budget getting i3 530 is fine also, it is factory clocked at 2.93Ghz. This goes without saying if you buy a good aftermarket cooler like Noctua NH-D14, or H50/H70 (push and pull setup), you can easily overclock the i3 530 to 3.6Ghz and maybe beyond. In terms of the functions locked, most Intel motherboards locks the ability to overclock your cpu which will greatly limit how much you can boost the performance of your cpu without buying a new one.

Finally, in terms of how the GPU's speed comes into play. As far as I know, the GPU's core clocks are the most important in terms of the GPU's speed, the next thing is the shader clock (only on Nvidia GPUs I believe), and lastly the memory clock (this determines how fast data is transfered between the GPU Core and the dedicated memory on the GPU). The bigger the GPU dedicated memory is the higher resolution you can play your games at. Say... GTA 4 needs at least 1.2GB GPU RAM for you to play it at 1920x1080 with max settings.

U suggest me GTX 460.... so air coolers can increase the capacity of clockspeed???? I didnt know that!! if i buy Noctua NH-d14, will my clockspeed be automatically increased or has it to be done manually??? if an I3 has 2.93 ghz can i really increase it?? will these functions be locked in this I3 or not?? how much will this cooler cost??

wo wo wo, take it easy. The clock speed can be increased by overclocking, a higher temperature comes with that so with a better cooler you can achieve that it will be no problem and you can overclock further. The lockage depends on you mainboard manufacturer because cpu's are overclocked by increasing the front side bus (for further information refer to dark virus, he knows a lot about that). Even a 3.5 GHz could be incrased till a level of "destruction", it depends as well on ram and cpu and the temperature they produce. And for the price, google for it!

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(08-31-2010 08:41 AM)Bositman Wrote:  The better cooling you have the higher your *potential* to increase your clock speed gets. This has to be manually and is a dangerous process if you don't know what you're doing, you could fry your processor. Overclocking options are provided by the motherboard you get, so if you get a high end overclocking motherboard you'll have many powerful overclocking options while if you get a cheap OEM motherboard there won't be any.

ah, hate you for that comment xD you know, I HAVE A CHEAP OEM xD

man!!! This Noctua NH-D14 looks dangerous on Google!!