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(03-20-2009 03:44 PM)bileln Wrote: [ -> ]my program plystation 2 can not work and he want bios

http://forums.pcsx2.net/thread-2298.html#Bios

ugh!! Can someone upload that "DirectX End-User Runtime Web Installer" to megaupload or someone pm with it cuz i had to pirate my windows due to back up dvds not working anymore.

we don't help pirates.

^ and what is a emulator?I thought an emulator was an act of Piracy,my bad.

an emulator is running code on a non-native machine. it's not piracy

(03-20-2009 11:04 PM)Saiki Wrote: [ -> ]an emulator is running code on a non-native machine. it's not piracy

LOL.You think its not?

google "is emulation piracy".

Get real.

Nvm.No need to google.

Edit:click on the link and look for ....."Some people think that people making emulators and ROMs are helping publishers by making old games available that are no longer being sold by the copyright owner. They say that this does not hurt anyone and allows gamers to play old favorites. What's the problem"?

http://www.theesa.com/policy/antipiracy_faq.asp#6

thanks for playing.

You get real. Have a warning for piracy. If you think emulation is piracy you obviously have got no idea about copyrights.
Let's quote a part of that page for fun:

Quote:The problem is that it's illegal to make or distribute software or hardware emulators or ROMs without the copyright or trademark owners' permission.

Totally wrong? PCSX2 is not distributing ANY copyrighted material (like BIOS) and is not using any copyrighted code.So what we are distributing does not need any permission. Moreover,it is free thus the authors are not making profit out of it.

Quote:In other words, in many cases, emulator/ROM piracy is affecting games that are still on the market.

Nothing illegal about that. I'll add an emulator can boost sales of current console games since many people enjoy playing games with the additional features of an emulator (save states,better graphics etc) thus buy games to play on an emulator which they wouldn't.

Quote:Finally, in the current highly competitive market, a top quality game costs millions of dollars to develop, and sometimes double or triple its development costs to market. Software publishers must generate a meaningful return on their investments if they are to continue to meet the growing demand for technologically advanced products. The suggestion that some piracy is benign and not harmful undermines respect for the intellectual property rights on which software companies depend in investing millions of dollars in creating and publishing new games. Piracy of any kind on any scale erodes this foundation.

People that pirate games have nothing to do with emulation. You can play a legally bought game on an emulator the same way you can play an illegally downloaded one. Pirates will do their thing with emulators existing or not. You can play a pirated game on a PS2 as well as on an emulator. I can't see how emulation promotes game piracy.

So there you have it. That site has totally crap info.

(03-21-2009 12:41 AM)Bositman Wrote: [ -> ]You get real. Have a warning for piracy. If you think emulation is piracy you obviously have got no idea about copyrights.
Let's quote a part of that page for fun:

Quote:The problem is that it's illegal to make or distribute software or hardware emulators or ROMs without the copyright or trademark owners' permission.

Totally wrong? PCSX2 is not distributing ANY copyrighted material (like BIOS) and is not using any copyrighted code.So what we are distributing does not need any permission. Moreover,it is free thus the authors are not making profit out of it.

Quote:In other words, in many cases, emulator/ROM piracy is affecting games that are still on the market.

Nothing illegal about that. I'll add an emulator can boost sales of current console games since many people enjoy playing games with the additional features of an emulator (save states,better graphics etc) thus buy games to play on an emulator which they wouldn't.

Quote:Finally, in the current highly competitive market, a top quality game costs millions of dollars to develop, and sometimes double or triple its development costs to market. Software publishers must generate a meaningful return on their investments if they are to continue to meet the growing demand for technologically advanced products. The suggestion that some piracy is benign and not harmful undermines respect for the intellectual property rights on which software companies depend in investing millions of dollars in creating and publishing new games. Piracy of any kind on any scale erodes this foundation.

People that pirate games have nothing to do with emulation. You can play a legally bought game on an emulator the same way you can play an illegally downloaded one. Pirates will do their thing with emulators existing or not. You can play a pirated game on a PS2 as well as on an emulator. I can't see how emulation promotes game piracy.



One word.BIOS!!!

So there you have it. That site has totally crap info.

I'm not going to answer all that *****.I don't have the time nor the patients.You're the one that needs to get real.


Emulator don't work without BIOS.You can not include bios or this ***** would be shut down.Right?Right!So yeah just downloading emulators WITHOUT bios are not illegal per say, BUT u need BIOS(which is illegal as we know)to make the EMU COMPLETE.EMU + BIOS are illegal.Basically Emulators are designed to use a copyrighted piece of information and without, its useless.So yeah Emulators are a act of piracy(remember u need bios to make it all work).

Anyways,I'm not got to waste my time arguing with you or anyone else.I have much better things to do.

Lol you just owned yourself. That's the whole point. You can get a BIOS LEGALLY only by dumping it from your own playstation 2 console. You can dump it for free using a free tool and you have all rights to use it since it's part of the console you own. But being a clueless noob you are,you would have no idea that was even possible now would you?
Go do your better things to do please,but don't talk about things you have no clue about after 5 mins of googling it.
Kthx bai.

I just wanted to say congrats on the progress guys. I've tried an older version of PCSX2 and it was slow. I tried the latest beta build today and was amazed that I was actually able to progress through Tekken 4, Megaman X7 and X8 (though the framerate was somewhat low, it's still progress).

Keep it up, I look forward to the day when I can play Tekken 4 at full speed.

Edit: Oh, I do have a PS2, but it's nice to be able to use my discs in my computer.