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Bositman Offline
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
Hmm you could use some external cam yeah. You mean when you run FRAPS, the FPS that GSdx reports are half, or the FPS that FRAPS report are half that of what GSdx reports?

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11-05-2009 12:25 AM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
Bositman.i will use an external camera to see what i have got,anyway if this gonna be a more important thread can you suggest me a new name for it?.
And almost forgot,thanks for supporting me here XD,gonna make this thread a lot better.
Actually the real secret to run most of this games like that is the new brand of svn of gsdx 2000+,im actually using revision 2111 of gsdx,and dunno why but later revision simply dont allow me to use frameskip,beacuse the screen just get flashy and out of control,but recently with that build i can pull off the best frameskips settings without any complication at all,note:some games still getting some flickering,and i got other problems too,for example i can run dragon ball z budokai tenkaichi 2 at good speeds,but only in single player mode,beacuse when i play it like versus mode against a friend for example,the fps cut by half,im getting about 30-35,when in single player 50-60 more or less.And actually there is something strange about it,look,when i run the game at the beggining the game runs great,but when passed i dont know maybe 3 or 4 minutes the fps starts to fall,and then i press (esc) key,and pause the emulator for a couple of seconds,then i resume the game and surprise the fps increase for a couple of minutes and then again fall,any solution for this??.I already checked temps,both cpu and gpu,and seems fine,also my cpu doesnt seems to stressed too,neither the gpu so dont know what is happen to that.Anyway thanks for reading all this.
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11-05-2009 12:45 AM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
So nobody anwers my previous post question?,Well anyway here is the video as i promised,sorry for the delay its mainly beacuse i have to ask my brother to record my gameplay.I totally warn you the video quality is as bad as hell,but at least you can see that the gameplay its not slow motion.By the way the game is dragon ball z budokai tenkaichi 2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRpAuHuhI8s

Edit:I will post some more videos of my other games,Just right now im plating god of war 2,between 35-45 fps,seems playable for me.
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2009 02:38 PM by diegochiha. Edit Reason: N/A)
11-06-2009 02:28 PM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
Sorry man but that IS horrible slow motion Tongue Check some actual PS2 video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd6X-8u1Eqw (first one i found for this game)
Ok maybe you don't call that slow motion, but it's skipping like hell. I'd never call that playable Tongue

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11-06-2009 02:38 PM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
@ bositman

For my pc specs its just fine,And btw you are making a comparision between the real ps2 and the emulator...thats pretty unfair
11-06-2009 02:42 PM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
Well since the emulator is emulating the game perfectly on machines that can run it, I could make that exact video myself running on PCSX2 but I actually linked there for quickness.
I never said it's not fine for your PC specs, but claiming you get 48 fps and that the game is playable with that kind of gameplay it's simply not true.

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11-06-2009 02:45 PM
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@ Bositman

Okay i didnt know that actually speedhacks can fake fps
11-06-2009 02:47 PM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
EE speedhacks throw off the emulator timings, making other games slower or faster and can sometimes cause glitches. I have 2d games that run fine on normal timings but gets screwed even just selecting 1.5x cycle.
VU cycle stealing causes some artifacts and results in "fake +fps" in some games.

No one should be relying on thinking that the emulator can run games full-speed with all speedhacks on at less-than-adequate systems. Those who do, tend to be dissapointed in the end.
Emulation is much more satisfying and closer to the ps2 experience if you only use the minor hacks.
11-06-2009 02:59 PM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
Well this whole thread is because diego told someone with an Athlon X2200 and a 6600GT video card that lots of games would be playable (based on his experience with his own machine, which is on a good day will be twice as fast for PCSX2). I said that's irresponsible to tell someone that they can use the emulator for actual gameplay when it was very clear the OP of that thread could not. And so here we are, trying to prove deigo's whether or not computer can or cannot play games to deigo's satisfaction; when that was never the issue to begin with.

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11-06-2009 03:13 PM
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RE: example of poor pc running some games(see to believe people)
@ Air

What i mean for playable,its not the same as bositman or even you Tongue ,beacuse with your specs i will have to say that my games must run at full speed or nearby full speeds,but being aware of my specs my definition of playable changes a lot and make my happy the only fact that i can actually play some ps2 games at "decent by me" speeds.And i think that everyones that haves low end machines actually get happy to see that at least run.So making im making this thread to cheer uo people in my same situation Laugh
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11-06-2009 03:23 PM
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