05-30-2014, 08:18 AM
Well my is why pcsx2 is requiring more and more hardware because it should be able to run with a 6 years old pc but no every release is more and more hardware demanding in my computer should work perfect by reading everyone posts but nope lets see interpreter 10 fps and recompiler about 15 fps i think there is a problem with optimization codes to work fater normally a recompiler should work 6 to 10 times faster then interpreter so i could say pcsx2 works only on interpreter mode the other problem i have is the compatibility list i have all the versions of pcsx2 and i mean all svn,stable reeases you name it and some games marked as playable wont work and other marked as unplayable are playable curious aout that lets see the game .hack fragment is tagged playable but it isnt i tried everything and it didnt work so i started looking some stuffs in internet and downloaded a hacked Gameindex.dbf and several games worked the game .hack fragment worked perfectly (slow but perfect) and i noted the differences the hacked gameindex sayd 4 gamefixes and the oficial sayd 3 so i started studying abou ps2 and i realize a lot of stuffs but first
This is my hardware
AMD Athlon 2.4 GHZ 2 fisical cores 2 virtual
GPU AMD Radeon HD 1 GB
6 Gb ram (4b normal ram + 2 GB gaming ram)
Windows 7 Ulimate 64 Bit
PCSX2 it should work fine but nope
Now im gonna be constructive
The ps2 have a special 128 bit cpu thats what is normally sayd but nope its an arquitecture taked from sega saturn (the sega saturn 2 cpu core of 32 bit + GPU + ram + spu + hdd is the same arquitecture at a lower power as the ps2 - ps3 -psp)
Now lets see the cpu of the ps2 is 2 cpu of 64 bit the same as the psp in fact the psp have identical hardware to the ps2 (and i mean identycal i tooked appart a ps2 and psp to check the hardware and are the same ,interesting.
So lets see if the psp and ps2 have the same hardware a computer able to emulate psp perfectly should be able to run ps2 games as well (im able to emulate the psp perfectly on my pc) but the problem is pcsx2 is more hardware demanding but why?
As someone sayd you cant compare the emulation because evrything have different hardware
Case 1 im able to emulate wii on dolphin emulator why im unable to reach playable speed at pcsx2
Answer in the forum the wii have a hardware similar to pc so is easy to translate to pc hardware .
But the problem is why because the wii have a power pc processor of 3.2 ghz you would need at least a cpu dual core of 4 ghz minimum but you are able to reach the best speed in a dual core processor of 2 ghz the answer to this is recompiler optimized .
Case 2 im able to play psp in jpcsp and ppsspp at full speeed why im unable to play pcsx2 at full speed
Answer from the forums the psp and the ps2 are 2 different consoles the ps2 have a hardware too difficult to emulate and the psp is similar in arquitecture to pc so is easier to emulate
And this was a tricky answer because the truth is the psp and the ps2 have the same hardware the same opcodes the same registers so why if you are able to emulate the psp you are unable to emulate the ps2 since they are the same technically speaking the anser is optimized recompiler
If you have some ideas as why pcsx2 is becoming more and more hardware demanding answer here
PS: Not everyone is able to buy a computer every 6 months not everyone is able to upgrade their computers every year
By the way the only reason im intersted in emulation is because i can take a notebook or my tower to almost any place and play all my bakups but the emulator works so slow is kinda deceiving.
My stuffs
6 pc ( 1 custom made the one i wanted use to emulate)
1 Notebook HP Pavilion G6 Gaming Edition
3 Ps2 Phat (+1 R.I.P)
1 PSP (+1 R.I.P)
1 PS3 250 GB slim
1 XBOX 360 250 GB Kinnect ready
1 Nintendo WII
Games Count to date +9000
Well i hope someone have ideas as how to improve the speed of PCSX2 because as someone said "great emulation compatibility without speed is the same as nothing"
This is my hardware
AMD Athlon 2.4 GHZ 2 fisical cores 2 virtual
GPU AMD Radeon HD 1 GB
6 Gb ram (4b normal ram + 2 GB gaming ram)
Windows 7 Ulimate 64 Bit
PCSX2 it should work fine but nope
Now im gonna be constructive
The ps2 have a special 128 bit cpu thats what is normally sayd but nope its an arquitecture taked from sega saturn (the sega saturn 2 cpu core of 32 bit + GPU + ram + spu + hdd is the same arquitecture at a lower power as the ps2 - ps3 -psp)
Now lets see the cpu of the ps2 is 2 cpu of 64 bit the same as the psp in fact the psp have identical hardware to the ps2 (and i mean identycal i tooked appart a ps2 and psp to check the hardware and are the same ,interesting.
So lets see if the psp and ps2 have the same hardware a computer able to emulate psp perfectly should be able to run ps2 games as well (im able to emulate the psp perfectly on my pc) but the problem is pcsx2 is more hardware demanding but why?
As someone sayd you cant compare the emulation because evrything have different hardware
Case 1 im able to emulate wii on dolphin emulator why im unable to reach playable speed at pcsx2
Answer in the forum the wii have a hardware similar to pc so is easy to translate to pc hardware .
But the problem is why because the wii have a power pc processor of 3.2 ghz you would need at least a cpu dual core of 4 ghz minimum but you are able to reach the best speed in a dual core processor of 2 ghz the answer to this is recompiler optimized .
Case 2 im able to play psp in jpcsp and ppsspp at full speeed why im unable to play pcsx2 at full speed
Answer from the forums the psp and the ps2 are 2 different consoles the ps2 have a hardware too difficult to emulate and the psp is similar in arquitecture to pc so is easier to emulate
And this was a tricky answer because the truth is the psp and the ps2 have the same hardware the same opcodes the same registers so why if you are able to emulate the psp you are unable to emulate the ps2 since they are the same technically speaking the anser is optimized recompiler
If you have some ideas as why pcsx2 is becoming more and more hardware demanding answer here
PS: Not everyone is able to buy a computer every 6 months not everyone is able to upgrade their computers every year
By the way the only reason im intersted in emulation is because i can take a notebook or my tower to almost any place and play all my bakups but the emulator works so slow is kinda deceiving.
My stuffs
6 pc ( 1 custom made the one i wanted use to emulate)
1 Notebook HP Pavilion G6 Gaming Edition
3 Ps2 Phat (+1 R.I.P)
1 PSP (+1 R.I.P)
1 PS3 250 GB slim
1 XBOX 360 250 GB Kinnect ready
1 Nintendo WII
Games Count to date +9000
Well i hope someone have ideas as how to improve the speed of PCSX2 because as someone said "great emulation compatibility without speed is the same as nothing"