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Heat only causes bsods because of an issue of clean power through the cpu.
but voltage and heat are a spiraling chain of hell, with heat making voltage unstable and voltage increasing heat.

Of course, everything regarding heat we've just posted about is for intel processors, which run cooler on average than amd.

AMD mobile chips run very hot.

Actually, the bsod problem on that setup is more likely the version of AMD sata drivers used with Windows 7 SP1. I had to hunt down an updated version for my SIL's laptop after upgrading it to SP1. The catalyst mobility package includes an outdated sata and south bridge driver.

http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/p...-64.aspx#3
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(11-20-2011, 10:50 PM)Squall Leonhart Wrote: 70c load is normal for a second gen, stock cooler/clocks

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Ph...IBOX).html

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPU...=&f11=&f12=

I'd suggest that you revise your thinking. But you can use your hardware as you like. Frankly, 110c is the thermal limit for instant damage to a many video cards in laptops and computers. They're designed with higher heat limits.

A CPU though is never normally supposed to surpass 80c, although this temperature varies from chip to chip, when it says operating tempreature of maximum 62c and you're saying 70c is ok, then I'd be flashing warning signals.

What you think is ok, and how long you want your equipment to last is totally up to you, however you should never advise someone to take the same risks as you without warning them of the risks.

Heat does many things, but it is similar to voltage/amp issues that you get. Mostly, the heat distorts how the power is received by expanding components which causes an increased load, because thermal conductivity is related to electrical conductivity. Once it reaches a threshold it stops being able to do either correctly. Which means that calculations go wrong, and when it goes wrong too much it BSODs.

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Note that laptop CPU is hotter than the desktop counterpart. The i3 530 desktop idles at 27 degree while the i3 350M idles at 40 degree.

I don't know about Phenom II desktop CPU, but my laptop temp reached 76 degree after unboxing. Now it is running above 80 degree and I consider it normal. Intel CPUs seem to be a little cooler.
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(11-21-2011, 02:34 PM)skythra Wrote: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Ph...IBOX).html

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPU...=&f11=&f12=

I'd suggest that you revise your thinking. But you can use your hardware as you like. Frankly, 110c is the thermal limit for instant damage to a many video cards in laptops and computers. They're designed with higher heat limits.

A CPU though is never normally supposed to surpass 80c, although this temperature varies from chip to chip, when it says operating tempreature of maximum 62c and you're saying 70c is ok, then I'd be flashing warning signals.

What you think is ok, and how long you want your equipment to last is totally up to you, however you should never advise someone to take the same risks as you without warning them of the risks.

Heat does many things, but it is similar to voltage/amp issues that you get. Mostly, the heat distorts how the power is received by expanding components which causes an increased load, because thermal conductivity is related to electrical conductivity. Once it reaches a threshold it stops being able to do either correctly. Which means that calculations go wrong, and when it goes wrong too much it BSODs.

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thanks for displaying your acute symptons of FAILED TO READ.
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(11-21-2011, 02:34 PM)skythra Wrote: http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K10/AMD-Ph...IBOX).html

http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPU...=&f11=&f12=

I'd suggest that you revise your thinking. But you can use your hardware as you like. Frankly, 110c is the thermal limit for instant damage to a many video cards in laptops and computers. They're designed with higher heat limits.

A CPU though is never normally supposed to surpass 80c, although this temperature varies from chip to chip, when it says operating tempreature of maximum 62c and you're saying 70c is ok, then I'd be flashing warning signals.

What you think is ok, and how long you want your equipment to last is totally up to you, however you should never advise someone to take the same risks as you without warning them of the risks.

Heat does many things, but it is similar to voltage/amp issues that you get. Mostly, the heat distorts how the power is received by expanding components which causes an increased load, because thermal conductivity is related to electrical conductivity. Once it reaches a threshold it stops being able to do either correctly. Which means that calculations go wrong, and when it goes wrong too much it BSODs.

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lol this is a laptop not a desktop
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