CPU ranks- Athlon II X4 620, Phenom II X4 955, Core i5 750
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Air, on my motherboard, I can disable cores. By what you've just said, does that mean if I were to disable 2 cores, I may achieve a higher overclock?..
Also, how does 32bit/64bit OS's effect overclocks? In a few reviews they could get more out of the Phenom II's on a 32 bit OS.
AMD Phenom II 940 @ 3.6GHZ, 4GB PC8500 @ 1100MHZ, 4870x2 @ Stock.
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#22
Sythedragon:
Yes, with 2 of the 4 cores disabled, you *could* get a higher overclock of the remaining 2.

I've had similar behaviour on my old E6600 dualcore. Core #1 was reproducibly worse than core #0.
At a given frequency/voltage, it'd always drop out in stress tests first Tongue2
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#23
(10-16-2009, 02:36 PM)rama Wrote: Sythedragon:
Yes, with 2 of the 4 cores disabled, you *could* get a higher overclock of the remaining 2.

I've had similar behaviour on my old E6600 dualcore. Core #1 was reproducibly worse than core #0.
At a given frequency/voltage, it'd always drop out in stress tests first Tongue2

Hmm, I may look into this, nothing I use, uses 4 cores anyways.

Cheers.
AMD Phenom II 940 @ 3.6GHZ, 4GB PC8500 @ 1100MHZ, 4870x2 @ Stock.
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#24
I upgraded a month ago to this Lynnfield i7-860 setup and at 4.12GHz, 1.392v and ~70C full load in stress test with a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus (HT off, so it's basicly a i5. With HT off you oc bout 150MHz higher at same voltage) it's like an overkill for PCSX2, runs ps2 games at about 185 FPS average. i5-750 seems to overclock to around 4GHz on air, depending on your luck 1.3~1.4v is required from 1.22~1.25v default and default vcore is enough for around 3.5GHz.
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#25
...it seems that every thread on every forum that's started with AMD or Intel, Ati or nVidia ends up like this, ...I didn't say that he must buy AMD, I said he should go for Intel, ...if you read what I posted, & about AMD, yes it can run on 4.0GHz on air, one of my m8 got it's working stable on 4.2GHz... ON AIR!!! ...it all depends from MoBo, CPU & RAM, if you choose good, you'll get good...

I just said what I tested, didn't lie anything or something lol...

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#26
Its totally irrelevant what AMD said, or what AMD thinks, whats relevant is giving sound advice to people on forums, especially when they're about to spend a shed-load of their own cash on hardware and then expect to reach these impossible o/c levels just because someone, somewhere, on some silly hardware forum has bragged about getting 4Ghz on air.
I do this for a living, and have been since the early 90s, and I've not built a single AMD system in the last couple of years, thats overclocked anywhere near Intel, let alone the magic 4Ghz from the PII X4 chips.
I've never got past 3.8Ghz, on air, on ANY PII X4 CPU, and with a couple of mates all trying out overclocking on their own AMD machines, and none of these guys are amateurs.
Like I've said, overclocking is a lottery. You buy a good chip you win, you buy a poor chip with a high VID, you accept it or you buy another chip with a lower VID. My own E7500 has a fairly high vid of 1.28, thats why it took almost 1.41v in the BIOS to hit a stable 4Ghz, but it idles at 36c, and it's currently encoding x264 via MeGUI, 100% load and 60c, which ain't bad.
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(10-16-2009, 03:13 PM)RPGWiZaRD Wrote: I upgraded a month ago to this Lynnfield i7-860 setup and at 4.12GHz, 1.392v and ~70C full load in stress test with a CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus (HT off, so it's basicly a i5. With HT off you oc bout 150MHz higher at same voltage) it's like an overkill for PCSX2, runs ps2 games at about 185 FPS average. i5-750 seems to overclock to around 4GHz on air, depending on your luck 1.3~1.4v is required from 1.22~1.25v default and default vcore is enough for around 3.5GHz.

Hey RPGWiZaRD!
It's been a while, where've you been? Laugh
You're running your new rig at exactly the cpu clock i run mine at.
Can you like ..run the ffx intro when 3d is first shown on this:
PCSX2 beta 1888, GSdx10 in native res, spu2-x, sVU, everything else default Tongue2

   
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(10-16-2009, 05:55 PM)rama Wrote: Hey RPGWiZaRD!
It's been a while, where've you been? Laugh
You're running your new rig at exactly the cpu clock i run mine at.
Can you like ..run the ffx intro when 3d is first shown on this:
PCSX2 beta 1888, GSdx10 in native res, spu2-x, sVU, everything else default Tongue2

Hi, I haven't just visited this forum too often, but I still keep checking google code for updates.

Do you got a Lynnfield as well or a 920? As you can see I'm running at an unusually high DDR3 ram speed, gotta love this 2x2 G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-2000 9-9-9-24 kit that only costs about 100 EUR and clocks like a dream. I haven't seen many people running DDR3 ram at over 2300 (1150MHz) for 24/7 usage at least. Tongue2

I suppose that scene is before you get to main menu due to the text that shows up and not after you select new game (just asking cuz fps is slightly different).

I'm not able to test right now as I'm at parents place using one of my previous comps with AMD Opteron 165 but will test tomorrow.
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#29
Alright, waiting for it Laugh
And nope, I didn't replace my 8400 yet. I might not until mid 2010 even.
Also, yeah, that's the scene that runs without any button presses. Just let it boot and get there Wink
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#30
Lot of good advice here. Thanks so much everyone! I do plan on overclocking whatever I would get, but I'm not some weird whore that has to pump it up to over 4ghz. Anything in the near-4ghz range would be nice (like 2.8-4ghz), but yes I know that all CPU's are created differently, so I'm ready to fall back to a slower speed. Just wanted some averages for each CPU. I also don't want to break the thing or shorten its life too much.

It seems that for what I had in mind, Core i5's are definitely the better thing to get. Between that and the Phenom II, there was only a $10 difference for something that is almost up to par with the i7. And according to some people, i5 can actually get some better gaming benchmarks, not sure though. So the hyperthreading is the only thing that is missing? I am aware of what that is, but I'm not exactly sure how it will impact performance or whatever.

Basically, I wanted to know some info about i5's because they're so new, not many people know much about them yet, or else, had not tried them in pcsx2 and other such things yet. It seems they are very popular though, and offer nice performance for the price.

Cooling at least should not be an issue. I'm getting this heatsink, which seems to be one of the best you can get- COOLER MASTER Hyper 212. I have a friend who builds gaming PC's for a living and also uses emulators (including PCSX2), so he's been helping me with components. He's basically gotten me to look at two CPU's. The Phenom II and the Core i5.
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