SSX running slow?
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Hello everybody, first time posting, I am just started using pcsx2 (or any emulator for that matter)

I got  SSX tricky working good 98% of the time but i have just installed SSX and it is fine in the menu but runs really slow during gameplay. 

I have tried what ever fixes i could find on google but nothing working. 

so im here for help, any ideas what i should be looking at?

Is my PC to old/slow to run it? 

what info do you need to see to be able to tell what i have and if its good enough?

Here are the settings for the game, pretty much what is standard i think. PCSX2 v2.1.119, Windows 10

fingers crossed you can tell me what to change or tell me i need a better PC  Laugh


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Here are the Passmark CPU scores for your processor: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...Hz&id=2671

According to it, a STP (single-threaded performance) rating of 1651. Although people used to recommend a minimum STP score of 1600 for good performance, PCSX2 has become a lot more spec-accurate over time and usually with emulation that brings steeper performance requirements. Nowdays, 2000 is more of the ballpark you'd want to be in.

You also have it set to 3x native res which most modern GPUs could do on the majority of games without breaking a sweat, but could possibly be too much for the integrated graphics of that CPU, so try 2x native or even just native res and see if you get a perf boost (you should, if it's not a complete CPU bottleneck.)
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(08-31-2024, 07:44 AM)NarooN Wrote: Here are the Passmark CPU scores for your processor: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...Hz&id=2671

According to it, a STP (single-threaded performance) rating of 1651. Although people used to recommend a minimum STP score of 1600 for good performance, PCSX2 has become a lot more spec-accurate over time and usually with emulation that brings steeper performance requirements. Nowdays, 2000 is more of the ballpark you'd want to be in.

You also have it set to 3x native res which most modern GPUs could do on the majority of games without breaking a sweat, but could possibly be too much for the integrated graphics of that CPU, so try 2x native or even just native res and see if you get a perf boost (you should, if it's not a complete CPU bottleneck.)

Gday thanks for that,

Tried the Native res and it better but still not full speed and only about 20% of the time, the other 80% its still slow.

weird that SSX tricky works almost perfect but an earlier game doesnt. Im sure theres a reason for that but i have no idea.

so looks like the PC needs some upgrading.

Thank you
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#4
On 'average' the game fidelity improves over lifetime of the console but optimizations and code quality also improve over time. So a game that's later in hardware cycle may use less resources than an earlier game and look prettier because the developers are better at writing good code and textures are more performant.
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(08-31-2024, 08:09 PM)MrWizard Wrote: On 'average' the game fidelity improves over lifetime of the console but optimizations and code quality also improve over time. So a game that's later in hardware cycle may use less resources than an earlier game and look prettier because the developers are better at writing good code and textures are more performant.

ah ok that makes sense.. thanks
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(09-01-2024, 06:30 AM)Dallascowboy23 Wrote: ah ok that makes sense.. thanks

ok so i have a new PC (specs pic att) and it has 98% fixed the slow running, there are a few times when it goes slow again. What settings should change? all my settings are stock

Or are some games just never going to run smooth 100% of the time?

(08-31-2024, 07:44 AM)NarooN Wrote: Here are the Passmark CPU scores for your processor: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu...Hz&id=2671

According to it, a STP (single-threaded performance) rating of 1651. Although people used to recommend a minimum STP score of 1600 for good performance, PCSX2 has become a lot more spec-accurate over time and usually with emulation that brings steeper performance requirements. Nowdays, 2000 is more of the ballpark you'd want to be in.

You also have it set to 3x native res which most modern GPUs could do on the majority of games without breaking a sweat, but could possibly be too much for the integrated graphics of that CPU, so try 2x native or even just native res and see if you get a perf boost (you should, if it's not a complete CPU bottleneck.)

ok so i have a new PC (specs pic att) and it has 98% fixed the slow running, there are a few times when it goes slow again. What settings should change? all my settings are stock

Or are some games just never going to run smooth 100% of the time?


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There are still things you're not showing. How's your disk setup, what kind of video card you have, what bios you use, etc. You say you got stock settings, but stock settings may mean different things for different folks. Strictly speaking there were games on original PS2 that also did not keep up their FPS consistently.

All said above, still, yes. On current state of PCSX2 there are games that still struggle with running at 100% speed, especially at high resolutions. Some examples are Gran Turismo and Ratchet and Clank. As development progresses more and more performance issues are going to be fixed or improved. For example, Zone Of Enders: Second was basically unplayable for till devs figured out how to do rendering in it correctly speeding its fps about up by a factor of 10.
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(09-28-2024, 05:46 AM)MrWizard Wrote: There are still things you're not showing. How's your disk setup, what kind of video card you have, what bios you use, etc. You say you got stock settings, but stock settings may mean different things for different folks. Strictly speaking there were games on original PS2 that also did not keep up their FPS consistently.

All said above, still, yes. On current state of PCSX2 there are games that still struggle with running at 100% speed, especially at high resolutions. Some examples are Gran Turismo and Ratchet and Clank. As development progresses more and more performance issues are going to be fixed or improved. For example, Zone Of Enders: Second was basically unplayable for till devs figured out how to do rendering in it correctly speeding its fps about up by a factor of 10.

Thanks mate, yeah i dont know all the details about the video card etc, not super tech savvy, getting by with what i can find on youtube etc

ok so sounds like having it run at 95% might be good enough. on the old PC this was super slow motion 100% of the time so being normal 95% is awesome.

are there any setting in pcsx2 that you would recommend as an over all good start point? or is the stock setting usually the best.
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I use all defaults with the only things being changed: 4x native resolution; 4x Anisotropic filtering with Vulkan. I have RTX 3060Ti and a decent CPU. This works for my games (I don't run anything super heavy). IIRC some require few minor tweaks per game, but I've not looked around anytime recently.
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(09-28-2024, 08:15 AM)MrWizard Wrote: I use all defaults with the only things being changed: 4x native resolution; 4x Anisotropic filtering with Vulkan. I have RTX 3060Ti and a decent CPU. This works for my games (I don't run anything super heavy). IIRC some require few minor tweaks per game, but I've not looked around anytime recently.

I did a fresh install and used those settings, except i did 1080P and vsync to stop the tearing and  has been great for the last few runs, cheers for the help!
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