09-20-2013, 12:01 AM
(This post was last modified: 09-20-2013, 12:15 AM by stoochmaster.)
Sorry if this is a little lengthy but I am providing as much detail as I can because this situation is way to intricate to lave out any details.
Now before I begin, here are my comp specs:
I have also used several different versions of the Emulators and currently using 1.1.0 but I have used older versions including various versions of the 1.0.0 versions including the newest one.
Now I have spent several days looking for solutions on my own and I've done an exhaustive search on my own and now I've run into a wall. My point is that I didn't just post this topic for no reason I really went and did all this work on my OWN first and now I'm just done because I cannot take looking for this crap anymore in short it was a complete waste of time because there is no information that answers anything I need to know because of how everything is. So here is the situation:
For the past 5 days I've been around this forum going through a lot of various things and testing them only to find out that a lot of the things I've tested either don't work or there are plug ins that people say to use that don't even exist. There are also settings in the emulator that people say to use that not only don't exist, but there are settings that aren't clear about where they actually are in the emulator.
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Here is a list:
1. Any game where the configuration is set to DX9/DX11 SOFTWARE runs beyond slow and cannot play. Only when hardware is selected does the game run at the speed it should. I've tested this on over 19 games and it's the same result every time. So the problem is that people are saying to run the game in software mode Which is a setting that doesn't even allow the game to run even remotely near correctly.
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2. The plugins in a lot of these settings that people say they used don't even exist. For example I have searched and scoured this forum and Google for the following plug ins and cannot find this plugin anywhere
GSdx 5570 SSE41 [23 02 2013]
In fact I cannot find any plug in that has 557x in it's number the only one I can find anywhere is 53xx But yet the configuration in games shows that plug in was used.
There are also guides that say to actually DISABLE certain settings in the emulator, and then tell you to configure certain settings that can only be done, if the settings you just disabled, are enabled.
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3. Why is it there is nothing about EXACTLY what the 4GB patch is needed/used for. Some people say it's needed for some games but at the same time it's only mentioning about 32OS so. Let me clarify exactly what information is needed to clear up any confusion:
a. The way people talk about that patch is that the patch itself is 4GB in size. So this needs to be clarified is the patch 4GB in size or not. Whatever the case a fully detailed explanation needs to be provided to stop the misunderstanding.
b. What exactly requires that patch. Is it something for 32 OS only, or does the emulator itself actually need it regardless of what OS you have because the games cannot run without it. or is this not even needed anymore and it's obsolete..if it's obsolete it shouldn't even be found when searching anything on this forum.
Either way clarification on this is needed.
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4. Some games need to be taken off the compatibility list as working and having been tested because first of all, as I said above, games cannot run in software mode. Using Snowblind games as in this example Snowblind games such as Champions of Norrath Baulder's Gate, etc...They either lag so badly and have sever graphical glitches, or they freeze when loading. And I find it an insult to go and read how someone somehow magically got a game to run to test it when no one else has been able to. using plugins that don't exist and using settings that teh game simply could not have run in.
The point here is that, my computer is powerful enough to play these games with said settings, but yet I cannot get the same result. So it's impossible for someone to have gotten the game to run, but I cannot, never mid being able to test the games.
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5. What's with the mystery settings that seem to only exist for certain people but not others? For example I have seen countless threads people in various other threads as well as being listed in the settings of the compatibility list, that mention this setting:
DC and MTGS
I have never seen that setting in any PCSX2 emulator at all I even read that in order to get that setting to show up you have to select
If people who make guides are going to state to use settings, then they need to explain exactly where those settings are, and in some cases, explain how to get the setting to show up if it's not there. For example this:
DC and MTGS
I have never seen either of those options in any version of the PCXS2 that' I've used. I even did a search for DC and MTGS on this forum and found this reply
Well here is the config menu, as you can see there is no such option as CPU to click, and this is the same in every version of PCSX2
![[Image: vKEuCB7.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/vKEuCB7.jpg)
So what the hell is this person talking about and why is he saying to use options that do not exist?
Here are some other mystery settings that seem to only exist for some people and not for others. (SOURCE - Compatibility game list setting)
Where are these options/settings in the emulator:
DC and MTGS | VU1Rec and VU0Rec | rCache 0 | Console 1 | Patches 0
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So here is what the problems are summed up
1. The setup guides are incomplete and need revising
2. If people mention to use certain plugins and settings then don't assume people either know what is being talked about, or that someone has them. Instead leave a direct download link to the specific things people are using, along with the exact way to access those settings So that way people can get the same result..because as I said above I cannot find anywhere some of the plugins people are using or where they are getting them from or some of the settings they're using..
3. Anything that is only used by certain things need to be explained it is specifically for those certain things. (Such as the 4GB patch)
4. Anything obsolete need to seriously be removed from the forum altogether.
5. Any game someone claims they've gotten to work needs to show the entire process of exactly every setting they used, how they accessed those settings, where they got the plugin's from, and explain exactly how they didn't wind up with any problems in order to test the game (Such as Champions of Norrath) Which is currently being listed in the compatibility section of this site with nonexistent plains and settings that don't seem to exist.
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Well that's all I have to say thanks for reading.
Now before I begin, here are my comp specs:
Quote:Windows 7 64 Ultimate
i7 @ 2.8ghz L3 8MB cache
12GB GDD3 RAM
Nvidia Geforce gtx 560ti
I have also used several different versions of the Emulators and currently using 1.1.0 but I have used older versions including various versions of the 1.0.0 versions including the newest one.
Now I have spent several days looking for solutions on my own and I've done an exhaustive search on my own and now I've run into a wall. My point is that I didn't just post this topic for no reason I really went and did all this work on my OWN first and now I'm just done because I cannot take looking for this crap anymore in short it was a complete waste of time because there is no information that answers anything I need to know because of how everything is. So here is the situation:
For the past 5 days I've been around this forum going through a lot of various things and testing them only to find out that a lot of the things I've tested either don't work or there are plug ins that people say to use that don't even exist. There are also settings in the emulator that people say to use that not only don't exist, but there are settings that aren't clear about where they actually are in the emulator.
======================================================
Here is a list:
1. Any game where the configuration is set to DX9/DX11 SOFTWARE runs beyond slow and cannot play. Only when hardware is selected does the game run at the speed it should. I've tested this on over 19 games and it's the same result every time. So the problem is that people are saying to run the game in software mode Which is a setting that doesn't even allow the game to run even remotely near correctly.
======================================================
2. The plugins in a lot of these settings that people say they used don't even exist. For example I have searched and scoured this forum and Google for the following plug ins and cannot find this plugin anywhere
GSdx 5570 SSE41 [23 02 2013]
In fact I cannot find any plug in that has 557x in it's number the only one I can find anywhere is 53xx But yet the configuration in games shows that plug in was used.
There are also guides that say to actually DISABLE certain settings in the emulator, and then tell you to configure certain settings that can only be done, if the settings you just disabled, are enabled.
======================================================
3. Why is it there is nothing about EXACTLY what the 4GB patch is needed/used for. Some people say it's needed for some games but at the same time it's only mentioning about 32OS so. Let me clarify exactly what information is needed to clear up any confusion:
a. The way people talk about that patch is that the patch itself is 4GB in size. So this needs to be clarified is the patch 4GB in size or not. Whatever the case a fully detailed explanation needs to be provided to stop the misunderstanding.
b. What exactly requires that patch. Is it something for 32 OS only, or does the emulator itself actually need it regardless of what OS you have because the games cannot run without it. or is this not even needed anymore and it's obsolete..if it's obsolete it shouldn't even be found when searching anything on this forum.
Either way clarification on this is needed.
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4. Some games need to be taken off the compatibility list as working and having been tested because first of all, as I said above, games cannot run in software mode. Using Snowblind games as in this example Snowblind games such as Champions of Norrath Baulder's Gate, etc...They either lag so badly and have sever graphical glitches, or they freeze when loading. And I find it an insult to go and read how someone somehow magically got a game to run to test it when no one else has been able to. using plugins that don't exist and using settings that teh game simply could not have run in.
The point here is that, my computer is powerful enough to play these games with said settings, but yet I cannot get the same result. So it's impossible for someone to have gotten the game to run, but I cannot, never mid being able to test the games.
======================================================
5. What's with the mystery settings that seem to only exist for certain people but not others? For example I have seen countless threads people in various other threads as well as being listed in the settings of the compatibility list, that mention this setting:
DC and MTGS
I have never seen that setting in any PCSX2 emulator at all I even read that in order to get that setting to show up you have to select
If people who make guides are going to state to use settings, then they need to explain exactly where those settings are, and in some cases, explain how to get the setting to show up if it's not there. For example this:
DC and MTGS
I have never seen either of those options in any version of the PCXS2 that' I've used. I even did a search for DC and MTGS on this forum and found this reply
xCrashdayx Wrote:Its Called "MTGS" -> Hit Config and than ->CPU, you´ll find it there
Well here is the config menu, as you can see there is no such option as CPU to click, and this is the same in every version of PCSX2
![[Image: vKEuCB7.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/vKEuCB7.jpg)
So what the hell is this person talking about and why is he saying to use options that do not exist?
Here are some other mystery settings that seem to only exist for some people and not for others. (SOURCE - Compatibility game list setting)
Where are these options/settings in the emulator:
DC and MTGS | VU1Rec and VU0Rec | rCache 0 | Console 1 | Patches 0
======================================================
So here is what the problems are summed up
1. The setup guides are incomplete and need revising
2. If people mention to use certain plugins and settings then don't assume people either know what is being talked about, or that someone has them. Instead leave a direct download link to the specific things people are using, along with the exact way to access those settings So that way people can get the same result..because as I said above I cannot find anywhere some of the plugins people are using or where they are getting them from or some of the settings they're using..
3. Anything that is only used by certain things need to be explained it is specifically for those certain things. (Such as the 4GB patch)
4. Anything obsolete need to seriously be removed from the forum altogether.
5. Any game someone claims they've gotten to work needs to show the entire process of exactly every setting they used, how they accessed those settings, where they got the plugin's from, and explain exactly how they didn't wind up with any problems in order to test the game (Such as Champions of Norrath) Which is currently being listed in the compatibility section of this site with nonexistent plains and settings that don't seem to exist.
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Well that's all I have to say thanks for reading.