terrible performance version 1.7.0

[btimofte]

Do you own any other game ?
If so, test speedhacks with them. If you get the same problem, then maybe

I decided to move to 1.7.0 due to some other fixes and change the speedhacks from None(like it was in 1.6.0) to 02-Safe Default. I hope i wont get into problems.


I tried versions
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-501-g7a2c94f6e-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-514-g86e6745f2-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-515-g5e6cb22ee-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-536-gee25b2e5b-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-540-g83a5a7872-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-549-g3442ba748-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-588-ga699e94b2-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-602-g46e8057f9-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-610-gab97832a7-windows-x86
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-683-g4a90499ec-windows-x86

and they dont have the massive FPS drops anymore

HAS THE MASSIVE SLOWDOWNS
pcsx2-v1.7.0-dev-686-g03445d0b5-windows-x86

So that means one of these git changes added the massive performance drop

v1.7.0-dev-685-g678829a5b refractionpcsx2 2020-12-14 00:17:07 Download VIF: Don't rush finish VU programs, fixes remaining SPS in Shadowman
v1.7.0-dev-684-g713876918 refractionpcsx2 2020-12-12 04:33:24 Download VU: Synchronise VU1, added speedhack for old behaviour

From those 2 above
v1.7.0-dev-684-g713876918 refractionpcsx2 2020-12-12 04:33:24 Download VU: Synchronise VU1, added speedhack for old behaviour
--> performance tanks from 80% EE usage jumps to 99.9%

v1.7.0-dev-685-g678829a5b refractionpcsx2 2020-12-14 00:17:07 Download VIF: Don't rush finish VU programs, fixes remaining SPS in Shadowman
--> performance tanks again , going from 99% EE load and aprox 60 FPS to 100% EE load and aprox 50 FPS


Conclusion
These 2 changes caused a drop from 90 FPS unlocked to around 50 FPS unlocked in this scene

I will upload an youtube video with the example
Here is the example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loSm_eJUtWg

[jesalvein]

is this only with xenosaga ep1 ?

[btimofte]

is this only with xenosaga ep1 ?

I tried with Shadow of the Colossus -Speedhack 1 Safest - first 10 seconds of intro with the eagle
1.6.0 - 60 FPS
1.7.0 - 48 FPS

[jesalvein]

ok. not surprising since quite a lot of work has been made on VU accuracy.
So yes, it'll require more resources to run.

[btimofte]

ok. not surprising since quite a lot of work has been made on VU accuracy.
So yes, it'll require more resources to run.

I would review these changes with the developers . Going in XENOSAGA EP 1 from 90 FPS(unlocked) to 52 FPS (unlocked) is not normal. 50% FPS loss on high end cpu is not acceptable to anyone sorry to say this .As developers i can imagine you are happy to get better accuracy but think about most of the people use ***** laptop CPUs. What performance hit will they have compared to my unlocked 4.7 Ghz Desktop CPU ? Think about your customers and better solutions

[jesalvein]

hmmm.
maybe. could you please provide a better one ?

as a side note, could you please provide your emulog when running xeonosaga ?

[btimofte]

hmmm.
maybe. could you please provide a better one ?

as a side note, could you please provide your emulog when running xeonosaga ?

I would add this option who tanks performance in the speedhacks slider. When Speedhack slider is set to none this option shall be toggled . When Speedhacks is going to default this option shall be untoggled(this is the behaviour of 1.7.0). At least is transparent to the user which option can be performance intensive
Hmmm i see a new toggle in the 1.7.0 when going to default... maybe is already there like i suggested ? If so the only issue is if a user has better visuals in 1.6.0 on no hacks and he switches to 1.7.0 and has some visual bugs when he switches to default hacks.... now he wants to switch to no hacks like in 1.6.0 but he will have a massive performance drop ... Hmmm I have no idea how to solve , except if we assume 1.7.0 Default hacks is better than 1.6.0 no hacks in 99.99% of the cases

[jesalvein]

Vu Sync isn't an "option". It's required to improve accuracy/compatibility and avoid using hacks to make games work.
Basically, mtvu is a hack and tended to prevent games to boot. With this fix refraction brought,emulation tends to full accuracy, which is our final purpose.
Again, if you are fine with 1.6.0, then use it instead of trying to mess with Dev builds.

What about xenosaga's emulog ?

[btimofte]

Vu Sync isn't an "option". It's required to improve accuracy/compatibility and avoid using hacks to make games work.
Basically, mtvu is a hack and tended to prevent games to boot. With this fix refraction brought,emulation tends to full accuracy, which is our final purpose.
Again, if you are fine with 1.6.0, then use it instead of trying to mess with Dev builds.

What about xenosaga's emulog ?

PCSX2 1.7.0-20210312155843 - compiled on Mar 12 2021
Savestate version: 0x9a1d0000

Host Machine Init:
Operating System =  Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (build 19042), 64-bit
Physical RAM    =  32699 MB
CPU name        =  Intel® Core™ i9-9900K CPU @ 3.60GHz
Vendor/Model    =  GenuineIntel (stepping 0D)
CPU speed        =  3.599 ghz (16 logical threads)
x86PType        =  Standard OEM
x86Flags        =  bfebfbff 7ffafbff
x86EFlags        =  2c100000

x86 Features Detected:
SSE2.. SSE3.. SSSE3.. SSE4.1.. SSE4.2.. AVX.. AVX2.. FMA

Reserving memory for recompilers...

Loading plugins from C:\Users\xxx\Desktop\pcsx2-v1.7.0 XENOSAGA_EP1\plugins...
Bound  GS: GSdx32-AVX2.dll [GSdx 20210312155843 (MSVC 19.26 AVX2/AVX2) 1.2.0]
Plugins loaded successfully.

[GameDB] 10363 games on record (loaded in 228ms)
HLE Notice: ELF does not have a path.

Initializing plugins...
Init GS
Plugins initialized successfully.

Patches: No CRC found, using 00000000 instead.
isoFile open ok: C:\Users\xxx\Documents\PCSX2\Games\Shadow of the Colossus (USA)\Shadow of the Colossus (USA).iso
Image type  = DVD
* CDVD Disk Open: DVD, Single layer or unknown:
* * Track 1: Data (Mode 1) (1315408 sectors)
Opening plugins...
Opening GS
3.x GL context successfully created
OpenGL information. GPU: GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER/PCIe/SSE2. Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation. Driver: NVIDIA 460.89
INFO: GL_ARB_sparse_texture is available
INFO: GL_ARB_sparse_texture2 is available
INFO: GL_ARB_gpu_shader5 is available
INFO: GL_ARB_shader_image_load_store is available
INFO: GL_ARB_compute_shader is available
INFO: GL_ARB_shader_storage_buffer_object is available
INFO: GL_ARB_texture_view is available
INFO: GL_ARB_vertex_attrib_binding is available
INFO: GL_ARB_clear_texture is available
INFO: GL_ARB_multi_bind is available
INFO: GL_ARB_direct_state_access is available
INFO: GL_ARB_texture_barrier is available
INFO: GL_ARB_get_texture_sub_image is available

Current Renderer: OpenGL
Available VRAM/RAM:3840MB for textures
GSdx Lookup CRC:00000000
McdSlot 0 [File]: C:\Users\xxx\Desktop\pcsx2-v1.7.0 XENOSAGA_EP1\memcards\Mcd001.ps2
McdSlot 1 [File]: C:\Users\xxx\Desktop\pcsx2-v1.7.0 XENOSAGA_EP1\memcards\Mcd002.ps2
GSdx Lookup CRC:00000000
Plugins opened successfully.
48000 SampleRate:
EE/iR5900-32 Recompiler Reset
Bios Found: USA    v02.20(05/09/2006)  Console
BIOS rom1 module not found, skipping...
BIOS rom2 module not found, skipping...
BIOS erom module not found, skipping...
# Initialize memory (rev:4.00, ctm:196Mhz, cpuclk:147Mhz detected)
Frame buffer size set to  512x512 (2048x2048)

PlayStation 2 ======== Hard reset boot
ROMGEN=2006-0905, IOP info (CPUID=1f, CACH_CONFIG=14000200, 2MB, IOP mode)
<20060905-125923,ROMconf,PS20220WC20060905.bin:11824>
# Total accessable memory size: 32 MB (B:2:8:0) (400:2:7c30)
# TLB spad=0 kernel=1:12 default=13:30 extended=31:38
# Initialize Start.
# Initialize GS ...
# Initialize INTC ...
# Initialize TIMER ...
# Initialize DMAC ...
# Initialize VU1 ...
# Initialize VIF1 ...
# Initialize GIF ...
# Initialize VU0 ...
# Initialize VIF0 ...
# Initialize IPU ...
# Initialize FPU ...
# Initialize User Memory ...
# Initialize Scratch Pad ...
# Initialize Done.

EE DECI2 Manager version 0.06 Sep  5 2006 12:57:08
  CPUID=2e20, BoardID=0, ROMGEN=2006-0905, 32M

(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SCUS_974.72;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.00
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
ELF (cdrom0:\SCUS_974.72;1) Game CRC = 0xC19A374E, EntryPoint = 0x00100010
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SCUS_974.72;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.00
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
PAD: Warning! No controls are bound to a currently attached device!
Please attach a controller that has been setup for use with PAD or go to the Plugin settings and setup new controls.


IOP Realtime Kernel Ver.0.9.1
    Copyright 1999 © Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Reboot service module.(99/11/10)
cdvd driver module version 0.1.1 ©SCEI
Load File service.(99/11/05)
Multi Threaded Fileio module.(99/11/15)
iop heap service (99/11/03)
loadelf: fname cdrom0:¥SCUS_974.72;1 secname all
loadelf version 3.30
Input ELF format filename = cdrom0:¥SCUS_974.72;1
1 00100000 00031bcc ....
2 00131c00 00008580 .
Loaded, cdrom0:¥SCUS_974.72;1
start address 0x100010
gp address 00000000
# Restart Without Memory Clear.
# Initialize GS ...
# Initialize INTC ...
# Initialize TIMER ...
# Initialize DMAC ...
# Initialize VU1 ...
# Initialize VIF1 ...
# Initialize GIF ...
# Initialize VU0 ...
# Initialize VIF0 ...
# Initialize IPU ...
# Initialize FPU ...
# Initialize Scratch Pad ...
# Restart Without Memory Clear Done.
Elf entry point @ 0x00100010 about to get recompiled. Load patches first.
[GameDB] Searching for 'scus-97472' in GameDB
[GameDB] Found 'scus-97472' in GameDB
[GameDB] Searching for patch with CRC 'c19a374e'
[GameDB] No CRC-specific patch or default patch found
Overall 0 Widescreen hacks loaded
(Wide Screen Cheats DB) Patches Loaded: 0
[GameDB] Searching for 'scus-97472' in GameDB
[GameDB] Found 'scus-97472' in GameDB
[GameDB] Searching for patch with CRC 'c19a374e'
[GameDB] No CRC-specific patch or default patch found
ld: start: argc:1
ld: argc 0: cdrom0:¥SCUS_974.72;1
GSdx Lookup CRC:C19A374E
GSdx Lookup CRC:C19A374E
(UpdateVSyncRate) Mode Changed to NTSC.
(UpdateVSyncRate) FPS Limit Changed : 59.93 fps
Get Reboot Request From EE
ROM directory not found

PlayStation 2 ======== Update rebooting..
Frame buffer size set to  640x512 (2560x2048)

PlayStation 2 ======== Update reboot complete
cdvdman Init

IOP Realtime Kernel Ver. 2.2
    Copyright 1999-2002 © Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Reboot service module.(99/11/10)
cdvd driver module version 0.1.1 ©SCEI
Load File service.(99/11/05)
Multi Threaded Fileio module.(99/11/15)
iop heap service (99/11/03)
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥SIO2MAN.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 25, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥DBCMAN.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 26, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥SIO2D.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 27, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥DS1O_D.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 28, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥USBD.IRX;1 args 0 arg
USB Driver (Version 1.4.0)
loadmodule: id 29, ret 2
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥PL2303.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 30, ret 2
Closing plugins...
Closing GS
Delete 0 Shaders, 39 Programs, 28 Pipelines
Plugins closed successfully.
HotSwapping to new ISO src image!
HLE Notice: ELF does not have a path.

[GameDB] Searching for 'scus-97472' in GameDB
[GameDB] Found 'scus-97472' in GameDB
[GameDB] Searching for patch with CRC 'c19a374e'
[GameDB] No CRC-specific patch or default patch found
isoFile open ok: C:\Users\xxx\Documents\PCSX2\Games\XENOSAGA\Xenosaga Episode I Der Wille zur Macht  [DVD9]\Xenosaga Episode I Der Wille zur Macht  [DVD9].iso
Image type  = DVD
isoFile: second layer found at sector 0x001fde00
* CDVD Disk Open: DVD, Double layer:
* * Track 1: Data (Mode 1) (4151872 sectors)
Opening plugins...
Opening GS
3.x GL context successfully created
Current Renderer: OpenGL
Available VRAM/RAM:3840MB for textures
GSdx Lookup CRC:C19A374E
GSdx Lookup CRC:C19A374E
McdSlot 0 [File]: C:\Users\xxx\Desktop\pcsx2-v1.7.0 XENOSAGA_EP1\memcards\Mcd001.ps2
McdSlot 1 [File]: C:\Users\xxx\Desktop\pcsx2-v1.7.0 XENOSAGA_EP1\memcards\Mcd002.ps2
Plugins opened successfully.
48000 SampleRate:
EE/iR5900-32 Recompiler Reset
Bios Found: USA    v02.20(05/09/2006)  Console
BIOS rom1 module not found, skipping...
BIOS rom2 module not found, skipping...
BIOS erom module not found, skipping...
# Initialize memory (rev:4.00, ctm:393Mhz, cpuclk:295Mhz detected)

PlayStation 2 ======== Hard reset boot
ROMGEN=2006-0905, IOP info (CPUID=1f, CACH_CONFIG=14000200, 2MB, IOP mode)
<20060905-125923,ROMconf,PS20220WC20060905.bin:11824>
# Total accessable memory size: 32 MB (B:2:8:0) (400:2:7c30)
# TLB spad=0 kernel=1:12 default=13:30 extended=31:38
# Initialize Start.
# Initialize GS ...
# Initialize INTC ...
# Initialize TIMER ...
# Initialize DMAC ...
# Initialize VU1 ...
# Initialize VIF1 ...
# Initialize GIF ...
# Initialize VU0 ...
# Initialize VIF0 ...
# Initialize IPU ...
# Initialize FPU ...
# Initialize User Memory ...
# Initialize Scratch Pad ...
# Initialize Done.

EE DECI2 Manager version 0.06 Sep  5 2006 12:57:08
  CPUID=2e20, BoardID=0, ROMGEN=2006-0905, 32M

(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SLUS_204.69;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.0
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
found 9924 symbols
ELF (cdrom0:\SLUS_204.69;1) Game CRC = 0x6D1276AB, EntryPoint = 0x00200008
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SLUS_204.69;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.0
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC

IOP Realtime Kernel Ver.0.9.1
    Copyright 1999 © Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Reboot service module.(99/11/10)
cdvd driver module version 0.1.1 ©SCEI
Load File service.(99/11/05)
Multi Threaded Fileio module.(99/11/15)
iop heap service (99/11/03)
loadelf: fname cdrom0:¥SLUS_204.69;1 secname all
loadelf version 3.30
Input ELF format filename = cdrom0:¥SLUS_204.69;1
1 00200000 00138588 ....................
2 00338600 001a3ed8 ...........................
3 00a00000 000138ec ...
Loaded, cdrom0:¥SLUS_204.69;1
start address 0x200008
gp address 00000000
# Restart Without Memory Clear.
# Initialize GS ...
# Initialize INTC ...
# Initialize TIMER ...
# Initialize DMAC ...
# Initialize VU1 ...
# Initialize VIF1 ...
# Initialize GIF ...
# Initialize VU0 ...
# Initialize VIF0 ...
# Initialize IPU ...
# Initialize FPU ...
# Initialize Scratch Pad ...
# Restart Without Memory Clear Done.
Elf entry point @ 0x00200008 about to get recompiled. Load patches first.
[GameDB] Searching for 'slus-20469' in GameDB
[GameDB] Found 'slus-20469' in GameDB
[GameDB] Searching for patch with CRC '6d1276ab'
[GameDB] Found patch with CRC '6d1276ab'
comment: Save Point Crash Prevention
Author: pandubz, PSI, turtleli
(GameDB) Patches Loaded: 9
Overall 0 Widescreen hacks loaded
Loading patch '6D1276AB.pnach' from archive 'C:\Users\xxx\Desktop\pcsx2-v1.7.0 XENOSAGA_EP1\cheats_ws.zip'
comment: Widescreen hack by nemesis2000 (pnach by nemesis2000)
(Wide Screen Cheats DB) Patches Loaded: 1
[GameDB] Searching for 'slus-20469' in GameDB
[GameDB] Found 'slus-20469' in GameDB
[GameDB] Searching for patch with CRC '6d1276ab'
[GameDB] Found patch with CRC '6d1276ab'
Get Reboot Request From EE
GSdx Lookup CRC:6D1276AB
GSdx Lookup CRC:6D1276AB
ROM directory not found

PlayStation 2 ======== Update rebooting..

PlayStation 2 ======== Update reboot complete
cdvdman Init

IOP Realtime Kernel Ver. 2.1
    Copyright 1999-2001 © Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Reboot service module.(99/11/10)
cdvd driver module version 0.1.1 ©SCEI
Load File service.(99/11/05)
Multi Threaded Fileio module.(99/11/15)
iop heap service (99/11/03)
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥IOP¥SIO2MAN.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 25, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥IOP¥MCMAN.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 26, ret 2
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥IOP¥MCSERV.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 27, ret 2
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥IOP¥PADMAN.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 28, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥IOP¥LIBSD.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 29, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥IOP¥SSD.IRX;1 args 0 arg
SSD Ver 2.5.0.020108,0060.01
loadmodule: id 30, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥IOP¥RSSD.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 31, ret 0
Ssd init  Suzuki sound driver  version 2.5
Unknown device 'hdd'
Known devices are  mcMemory Card)  cdromCD-ROM )  romROM/Flash)  ttyCONSOLE)
Unknown device 'hdd'
Stream Buffer 1Bank 8192byte 16banks 131072byte used
Unknown device 'hdd'
Unknown device 'hdd'
Unknown device 'hdd'
Unknown device 'hdd'
loadelf: fname cdrom0:¥OV01.OVL;1 secname all
loadelf version 3.30
Input ELF format filename = cdrom0:¥OV01.OVL;1
0 00a00000 0005b8f8 ......
Loaded, cdrom0:¥OV01.OVL;1
start address 0x200008
gp address 00000000
use uwamono dat=306K byte obj count=14
** read: data¥yamamoto¥batdat.bin / 59392
Unknown device 'pfs'
Ssd function warning : -24,0x0000010c
Ssd function warning : -24,0x0000010c
Ssd function warning : -24,0x0000010c
Ssd function warning : -24,0x0000010c
Ssd function warning : -24,0x0000000c
Closing plugins...
Closing GS
Delete 0 Shaders, 64 Programs, 28 Pipelines
Plugins closed successfully.
Decommitting host memory for virtual systems...
EE/iR5900-32 Recompiler Reset
Shutting down plugins...
Plugins shutdown successfully.
(GameDB) Unloading...

[jesalvein]

Hm nothing unusual spammed in the console window...
So yes. Definitely the vu Sync improvement