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Texture and shadow flickering in DQ8
#1
I get the texture flickering too, when walking around the map and also during battles.

CPU: i5 8400
GPU: gtx 1060 3gb
OS: Windows 10 version 1903
RAM: 16gb of generic RAM

Using the latest dev build of PCSX2. Hacks I have enabled:
- Using Round sprite: full to fix the scaling lines in dialog boxes.
- Using Large Frame Buffer option to fix rainbow effects on the waterfalls.
- Using Turn Safe Features Off option to fix the black lines that outline characters.

Currently using DX11 option to run the game at 5x res, though the flickering happens on OpenGL too. I've read all of the previous threads about this before and this has never been resolved since 2010 so I don't have high hopes, but oh well. Might as well make the thread anyway.
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#2
Please post the contents of the emulog.txt file after the problem occurs. The file can be found in "My Documents\PCSX2\logs" for the installer version or in "PCSX2\logs" for the portable/binary version.

Please make sure to enclose your emulog in code tags like so (remove the empty space on the closing code tag!):
[code]
Pasted emulog goes here
[ /code]
CPU : I7 2600K Oc'ed @ 4.2Ghz
Mobo : Intel P67 southbridge
GPU : NVIDIA Geforce GTX 750 Ti
RAM : 6 Go
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#3
Code:
PCSX2 1.7.0-20200509175819 - compiled on May  9 2020
Savestate version: 0x9a0e0000

Host Machine Init:
    Operating System =  Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (build 18362), 64-bit
    Physical RAM     =  16283 MB
    CPU name         =  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-8400 CPU @ 2.80GHz
    Vendor/Model     =  GenuineIntel (stepping 0A)
    CPU speed        =  2.807 ghz (6 logical threads)
    x86PType         =  Standard OEM
    x86Flags         =  bfebfbff 7ffafbbf
    x86EFlags        =  2c100000

x86 Features Detected:
    SSE2.. SSE3.. SSSE3.. SSE4.1.. SSE4.2.. AVX.. AVX2.. FMA

Reserving memory for recompilers...

Loading plugins from F:\Emulation\Sony Playstation 2 - PCSX2\PCSX2 - 1.5.1 - Dragon Quest 8\plugins...
    Bound   GS: GSdx32-AVX2.dll [GSdx 20200509175819 (MSVC 19.21 AVX2/AVX2) 1.2.0]
    Bound  PAD: LilyPad.dll [LilyPad (20200509175819) 0.12.1]
    Bound SPU2: Spu2-X.dll [SPU2-X 20200509175819 2.0.0]
    Bound CDVD: cdvdGigaherz.dll [cdvdGigaherz 20200509175819 0.11.0]
(GameDB) 9859 games on record (loaded in 108ms)
    Bound  USB: USBnull.dll [USBnull Driver 20200509175819 0.7.0]
    Bound   FW: FWnull.dll [FWnull Driver 20200509175819 0.7.0]
    Bound DEV9: DEV9null.dll [DEV9null Driver 20200509175819 0.5.0]
Plugins loaded successfully.

HLE Notice: ELF does not have a path.

Initializing plugins...
    Init GS
    Init PAD
    Init SPU2
    Init CDVD
    Init USB
    Init FW
    Init DEV9
Plugins initialized successfully.

Patches: No CRC found, using 00000000 instead.
Opening plugins...
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    Opening PAD
Current Renderer: Direct3D 11 (Hardware renderer)
    Opening SPU2
    Opening CDVD
isoFile open ok: F:\Emulation\Sony Playstation 2 - PCSX2\PS2 Games\Dragon Quest VIII - Journey of the Cursed King (USA).iso
    Image type  = DVD
* CDVD Disk Open: DVD, Single layer or unknown:
* * Track 1: Data (Mode 1) (2041088 sectors)
    Opening USB
    Opening FW
    Opening DEV9
GSdx LookupMcdSlot 0 [File]: F:\Emulation\Sony Playstation 2 - PCSX2\PCSX2 - 1.5.1 - Dragon Quest 8\memcards\Mcd001.ps2
CRC:0
McdSlot 1 [File]: F:\Emulation\Sony Playstation 2 - PCSX2\PCSX2 - 1.5.1 - Dragon Quest 8\memcards\Mcd002.ps2
GSdx Lookup CRC:0
Plugins opened successfully.
EE/iR5900-32 Recompiler Reset
    Bios Found: USA     v01.60(07/02/2002)  Console
    BIOS rom1 module not found, skipping...
    BIOS rom2 module not found, skipping...
    BIOS erom module not found, skipping...
# Initialize memory (rev:3.63, ctm:196Mhz, cpuclk:147Mhz detected)
Frame buffer size set to  512x1280 (2560x6400)

PlayStation 2 ======== Hard reset boot
ROMGEN=2002-0207, IOP info (CPUID=1f, CACH_CONFIG=0, 2MB, IOP mode)
<20020207-164243,ROMconf,PS20160AC20020207.bin:11552>
# Total accessable memory size: 32 MB (B:2:8:0) (363:2:7c30)
# TLB spad=0 kernel=1:12 default=13:30 extended=31:38
# Initialize Start.
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# Initialize Scratch Pad ...
# Initialize Done.

EE DECI2 Manager version 0.06 Feb  7 2002 16:41:20
  CPUID=2e20, BoardID=0, ROMGEN=2002-0207, 32M

Patches: No CRC found, using 00000000 instead.
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SLUS_212.07;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.00
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC
found 0 symbols
ELF (cdrom0:\SLUS_212.07;1) Game CRC = 0xF4715852, EntryPoint = 0x00100008
(SYSTEM.CNF) Detected PS2 Disc = cdrom0:\SLUS_212.07;1
(SYSTEM.CNF) Software version = 1.00
(SYSTEM.CNF) Disc region type = NTSC

IOP Realtime Kernel Ver.0.9.1
    Copyright 1999 (C) Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Reboot service module.(99/11/10)
cdvd driver module version 0.1.1 (C)SCEI
Load File service.(99/11/05)
Multi Threaded Fileio module.(99/11/15)
iop heap service (99/11/03)
loadelf: fname cdrom0:¥SLUS_212.07;1 secname all
loadelf version 3.30
Input ELF format filename = cdrom0:¥SLUS_212.07;1
0 00100000 002d2680 ..............................................
Loaded, cdrom0:¥SLUS_212.07;1
start address 0x100008
gp address 00000000
# Restart Without Memory Clear.
# Initialize GS ...
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# Initialize DMAC ...
# Initialize VU1 ...
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Elf entry point @ 0x00100008 about to get recompiled. Load patches first.
Get Reboot Request From EE
GSdx Lookup CRC:F4715852
GSdx Lookup CRC:F4715852
ROM directory not found

PlayStation 2 ======== Update rebooting..

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cdvdman Init

IOP Realtime Kernel Ver. 2.2
    Copyright 1999-2002 (C) Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.
Reboot service module.(99/11/10)
cdvd driver module version 0.1.1 (C)SCEI
Load File service.(99/11/05)
Multi Threaded Fileio module.(99/11/15)
iop heap service (99/11/03)
(UpdateVSyncRate) Mode Changed to NTSC.
(UpdateVSyncRate) FPS Limit Changed : 59.94 fps
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loadmodule: id 25, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥PADMAN.IRX;1 args 0 arg
loadmodule: id 26, ret 0
loadmodule: fname cdrom0:¥MODULES¥MCMAN.IRX;1 args 0 arg
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pcm player version 1.2.1
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    filename: F:\Emulation\Sony Playstation 2 - PCSX2\PCSX2 - 1.5.1 - Dragon Quest 8\sstates\SLUS-21207 (F4715852).00.p2s
EE/iR5900-32 Recompiler Reset
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    filename: F:\Emulation\Sony Playstation 2 - PCSX2\PCSX2 - 1.5.1 - Dragon Quest 8\sstates\SLUS-21207 (F4715852).00.p2s
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(gzipThread) Data saved to disk without error.
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#4
can you please post your gsdx settings and detail those "flickering" you get (with a screenshot, maybe)
CPU : I7 2600K Oc'ed @ 4.2Ghz
Mobo : Intel P67 southbridge
GPU : NVIDIA Geforce GTX 750 Ti
RAM : 6 Go
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#5
(05-11-2020, 09:00 AM)jesalvein Wrote: can you please post your gsdx settings and detail those "flickering" you get (with a screenshot, maybe)

Sure, here is a video showing the shadow/texture flickering happening in Alexandria town (it isn't always a shadow, sometimes it's part of some other scenery). Go to the 31 second mark to see it explicitly, it's impossible to miss the shadows flickering on the path leading up to the house:


Photo of the pcsx2 settings:

[Image: zDQ8Settings02.png?raw=1]
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#6
that's very tiny.
do you get the same with native res ?
CPU : I7 2600K Oc'ed @ 4.2Ghz
Mobo : Intel P67 southbridge
GPU : NVIDIA Geforce GTX 750 Ti
RAM : 6 Go
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#7
(05-12-2020, 07:21 AM)jesalvein Wrote: that's very tiny.
do you get the same with native res ?


What is tiny? The game window? The size of the flickering?

The size of the flickering varies depending on where it happens, that spot in Alexandria was simply convenient to easily grab footage of; when it happens in other places it can be bigger, or smaller than what is in the video.

Also, why would the size of the flickering matter? The point is that it flickers. 

Anyway, here is footage of it happening in native resolution as well, though admittedly when at native res the problem almost completely goes away. If you weren't looking for it you might not even notice the flickering happening when at native res; the 2nd half of the video I put it back to 5x res and show the flickering happening much more concretely and explicitly, with a bigger "size":


EDIT: Oh, and I'm not overclocked, just in case. I don't have any flickering or anything like that anywhere else, nor in other games on PCSX2.
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#8
The FOV on PS2 isn't very good, that's why i was wondering.
don't you get this when you launch the game on your real PS2 ?
I don't have this game, so can't test.
But can you check it out ?
CPU : I7 2600K Oc'ed @ 4.2Ghz
Mobo : Intel P67 southbridge
GPU : NVIDIA Geforce GTX 750 Ti
RAM : 6 Go
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#9
No flickering of any kind when running on a PS2.

Here are threads reporting the texture flickering in DQ8 throughout the years:

https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Dragon-Q...FIRST-CAVE

https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-DQVIII-f...g-textures

https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Direct3D9

https://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Screen-f...like-issue

If you email me your mailing address to a w e i g h @ g m a i l , i can mail you my DQ8 game disc so you can verify it. I never had any high expectation of this thread resulting in a fix for this, by the way, as this has been happening to people playing DQ8 on PCSX2 since 2010 and no thread I could dig up had a fix for it, I only made this thread mainly to remind the team that the issue exists.
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#10
Quote:If you email me your mailing address to a w e i g h @ g m a i l , i can mail you my DQ8 game disc so you can verify it.
that would take months to come in my mailbox. not a good idea unless you want to lose your game disc

do you get the same in software mode ?
CPU : I7 2600K Oc'ed @ 4.2Ghz
Mobo : Intel P67 southbridge
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