PS2 RPGs @ 1080p (New PC Questions)

[JTD]

4.0GHz vs 3.8GHz = ~5%
Somehow, I think it unlikely that the difference will be very noticeable.

The GTX 260 is 10.5" and rumors are the GTX 460 will be 8.5" (same as the HD 5770). Figure another half inch for the PCIe power connector and you're looking at ~9" total. Are you sure your case won't be able to fit that? ATX motherboards are 9.6" x 12". At the very least, I would've thought regular ATX tower cases would be able to handle up to 9" cards.

Do'h! You are right. I grabbed a plastic ruler, and sure enough, I have a full 12 inches of clearance from the rear case slots to the HDD Cage (without having any HDDs installed down there, as was the plan).
It's reduced down to 9 inches if I were to put any SATA hard drives down there, with those downward-angled SATA Data Cables, and really short SATA Power plugs.

Naoan,
Thanks for the tip about Zwei 2 & the English patch they're working on!
Just did some reading about it, and it looks like it'll be a lot of fun.

Tested FF12 @ 3x and it looks good on the plasma @ 1080p, 16:9.
To be clear, will the GTX260 be able to handle 3x?
What do you normally have it set at on your 4850, and at what res do you run your display at?

[naoan]

GTX260 is about 4870 level which is about (iirc) 30-40% faster than 4850, so I think It'll be enough for 3x in most games.

I usually use 3x but in more demanding game (Radiata Stories, Xenosaga 3, Odin Sphere, FM5) fall to 2x, my monitor res is 1360x768 but it has no impact with speed afaik, I'd still experience GPU bottleneck if I'm using, say, 5x scaling with 800x600 monitor res.

And yes, I'm also very excited with the Zwei 2 translation!

[avih]

I'm with GTX260 (core 216), and there's up to about 10% speed drop with 3x, depending on the game, while 2x is very close to native (in GSdx). I'd say GTX260 is slightly marginal for x3 everywhere...

[andutrache]

I'm with GTX260 (core 216), and there's up to about 10% speed drop with 3x, depending on the game, while 2x is very close to native (in GSdx). I'd say GTX260 is slightly marginal for x3 everywhere...

depends on the GTX260 and/or other bottlenecks, i can run almost all games at 4x no problem.

[rama]

andutrache:
Then you only own games that play nicely with scaling. The limit for most games with a GTX260 is indeed x3 scaling.
With x4 and up it may run fast when standing still, but any situation like a level change or an effect will bog down the frame rate.

[andutrache]

andutrache:
Then you only own games that play nicely with scaling. The limit for most games with a GTX260 is indeed x3 scaling.
With x4 and up it may run fast when standing still, but any situation like a level change or an effect will bog down the frame rate.

My bad i forgot to mention i have it overclocked and believe me i'm not testing the games at 4x while standing still XD

[carnage]

don't take 8600gt 512mb i made mistake by taking it myself, better get radeon hd4850 it is cheap but works way better, one friend with other wanted to check performance on hd4850 and gts250 so hd4850 was better(well i was surprised) anyway from now on i hate nvidia coz it just sucks, got some friends who working as PC specialists and they confirmed that nvidia sucks

[iakoboss7]

that is totally inaccurate and most times is the other way around, hd4000 models and nvidia 2xx models where of the same year and if you compaire the second best ati card with the medium nvidia then that clears it out. try compairing with gtx275...

[naoan]

For now price/performance is held by ATi, comparing 4850 with GTX275 is hardly fair. Doesn't mean that the entire Nvidia lineup suck, well for now it sucks but it remain to be seen how will their GTX460 and below will fare.

[SamSoNight]

don't take 8600gt 512mb i made mistake by taking it myself, better get radeon hd4850 it is cheap but works way better, one friend with other wanted to check performance on hd4850 and gts250 so hd4850 was better(well i was surprised) anyway from now on i hate nvidia coz it just sucks, got some friends who working as PC specialists and they confirmed that nvidia sucks

I am neither a ATI or nVidia fanboy, but your post sucks. Period. You are absolutely stupid if you compare a 8600GT with a HD4850. First off, the 8600GT is much older and it is at least 2 price categories below a 4850.

Right now, I suppose that ATI is the smarter choice, but for the extreme enthusiast. The GTX4xx cards are terrible in all areas except performance. They are loud, hot and use too much energy.