Dark Cloud 2 Playability
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(01-19-2014, 10:47 PM)Blyss Sarania Wrote: Booyah!

Also, if we wanna discuss this further lets make a thread or go to BPH.

Hey Blyss. Just a quick question for you.
I recently got myself a 1TB HDD drive, but my brother who is a certified Microsoft Technician said that getting a SSD would speed me up quite a lot. I was wondering if I should get an SSD later on down the line. And is there a huge difference between the two. He quoted...
"It will be your HDD that will hold you back if you get all these parts! It will defiantly be worth getting one in for future"

Basically, what I'm saying is should I worry about getting an SSD if I already have an HDD and will it really slow me down that much? I thought'd I'd ask as much because you have a HDD and a pretty sick machine so I'm just wondering.

I'm also going to get a get a good Processor Fan so that it can have a bit of a cool down. As well as an Intel Gigabyte 1155 socket as I've always used them and they're reliable and fairly cheap.
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#52
It will speed up some things. Your OS will load a lot quicker for instance. That's the biggest difference.

What SSD makes faster is non sequential reads. For instance, say you need to access 1000 small files really fast. SSD can do that as fast as it can a sequential file. Most SSD aren't too much faster in sequential reads. But it's important to know what RPM and throughput your current HDD is too.

It doesn't make or break anything. Basically it's just gonna decrease load times. If you are on a budget, I wouldn't worry about it. If you think it's really important, there is also the option of a hybrid. A hybrid has a small SSD area like maybe 16GB and the rest is a standard HDD. So you get SSD speed, regular HDD capacity, and for not much more than a regular HDD.
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#53
SSDs are blazingly faster than conventional HDDs since there are no mechanical parts to wear down or take their time to access a physical platter. They're also much more expensive and getting one with a lot of space is gonna cost you dearly.
As i said before, SSDs don't suffer from physical wear, but they do suffer from wear nontheless. It's similar to bad sectors on an HDD, it's a storage point in the SSD where data might become unrecoverable after a large amount of read/writes.
The software of the SSD will move any data on a volatile cell to a more stable one if it needs. That however means that as more cells become unstable after prolonged use, the less effective space you have left. It takes a few years of casual use to wear an SSD down for a considerable amount before you really have to swap it, or a year more or less of non-stop use.
The idea is that the less space you use on the SSD, the longer its lifespan because it has more free cells to swap the data on. For example, if you get an SSD with 16 cells of 20 writes each and you use only two, the amount of times you can write to only two cells is much greater than if you used 8 before the SSD would be unable to operate.

tl;dr great speed, more expensive than HDDs, less use = longer lifespan, no heat, no noise
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Okay guys. I probably won't worry about getting an SSD until a little bit later. I can use the HDD for the time being. The case came today, Woo! It's awesome.

Right now I've got the case, HDD, new fans and the graphics card shall be on it's way next week sometime. I think the next thing to focus on would be the motherboard. A intel gigabyte 1155 Z77 should do nicely. Then I can focus on other things such as RAM and the i5. Here is a low down on the specs of the new system.

Case: K5-7688 case
Motherboard: Gigabyte 1155 Z77
Graphics: AMD HD 7870
Ram: 8GB DDR3
CPU: 3570k i5
Fans: 2 180mm fans (One front, one back), 2 80mm Blue Leds, 2 more 80mm fans.


Hopefully that can handle what I want? Thanks for all your help guys, I will be posting more soon! Laugh I'm sure Gigabytes can be over clocked if needed, as I've used them for most of my life.
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You have an EXCELLENT setup there. You will rock hard in all games and PCSX2.
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(01-20-2014, 11:48 PM)Blyss Sarania Wrote: You will rock hard in all games and PCSX2.

ROFL

That is a hell of a build that will run anything you throw at it.
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Whoa. Amazing!! Laugh
I'll also be wanting to get a higher ram upgrade in the future (Can go up too 32GB) and a water cooling system/a decent processor fan as well.
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(01-21-2014, 12:04 AM)MrKalius Wrote: Whoa. Amazing!! Laugh
I'll also be wanting to get a higher ram upgrade in the future (Can go up too 32GB) and a water cooling system/a decent processor fan as well.

I'd recommend Hyper 212 Evo for budget

Or a Noctua NH-D14 if you have the money.
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#59
8GB is plenty unless you are doing seriously heaving non linear editing of some type.

Get an SSD before you upgrade the ram.
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(01-21-2014, 12:07 AM)Donovan24 Wrote: I'd recommend Hyper 212 Evo for budget

Or a Noctua NH-D14 if you have the money.

I shall defiantly look into this, as I didn't have an idea of were to start to look when it came to cooling systems and such. I already have a whole bunch of fans, but a processor fan is a must if I'm wanting to emulate things such as Ratchet and Clank and Final Fantasy X. Thank you!

(01-21-2014, 12:20 AM)Blyss Sarania Wrote: 8GB is plenty unless you are doing seriously heaving non linear editing of some type.

Get an SSD before you upgrade the ram.

Couldn't agree more. Currently, I have an old 80GB HDD and then my new 1TB HDD that I recently got. An SSD would speed up the system as 8GB should be enough. You're right on getting the SSD. The only thing I'll really b doing with this system itself is gaming. Playing Steam and PCSX2 mostly.

I have a separate system that I would be using for work. As I'm fairly certain I could build another system out of the old parts of my other system. I'll see how it goes.

Chances are that I might go for this Motherboard. It seems pretty good for what I'll be using the system for.
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