How normal would depend on the game. Some games could run at full speed, but the more demanding games will not run 60fps and may not be playable. Over 3.0Ghz is recommended (some take more) and under 2.0Ghz is most often inadequate, especially to be considered "normal". You do the math.
Also, Windows 7 would improve your performance.
Well.....normal as in......a good average FPS per second......no lag......
Yeah dat's 60+ Fps...........And in some games somewhere near 50-55FPS
It's impossible to give you a very specific answer because it will vary from game to game. I gave you the generic "what you can expect" type of speech, but since there are literally hundreds of games for the PS2, each with their own set of requirements... you can't expect anything better than that.
Now if you asked about how specific games would work on your system we could probably give more information on that... For example, if you asked how Disgaea would play (2d game) I'd say it'd play perfectly on your system. I could also tell you Kingdom Hearts and FFX would play perfectly fine in most scenes. I could also tell you that Metal Gear Solid 3 or Shadow of the Colossus won't be anywhere near playable.
Hmm what about the typical suikoden V.....mana khemia II? Not really much of a god of war or shadow of the colossus kind of guy..... XD
Don't understand this.
I have a 7950GX2 video card.
I have 2GB of DDR Ram
A AMD Dual Core X2 4600+ at 2.8GHZ.
It makes no sense on how my system cannot run this smoothly. The rules of emulation is you need double the speed of what you are trying to emulate. The Specs of a ps2 are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_2
I really do not FEEL like listing them.
Why do I get succchhh sllloooowwww perrrfoormanceee...
IT makes me laugh when thers is a cutscene with some games annnnddd thheeeyyyy taaaalllkkk like this.
Seriously why do you need basically a super computer to run a far infeior system, not only in graphics chip, but in processor. The CPU is ONLY clocked at 300MHZ. How in the world do you need an I5, or even DUAL core to support this system. Double 300MHZ is 600 Mhz.
I am confused here.
I don't put anti aliasing on either, i can't even IMAGINE how slow it would go with that on.
The Video is even worse on statistics scale.
So can someone without being a smart alek, explain why this is? Why there is such slow performance on a decent system. I am not BLAMING anyone. I am just annoyed, that even with a decent system it's basically not enjoyably and unplayable.
(09-13-2010, 09:01 PM)nafeasonto Wrote: [ -> ]I have a 7950GX2 video card.
So you have the power of a single 7900GT OC since there's no SLI profile for PCSX2 and that also means you can't use DX10 which is another slowdown.
Quote:A AMD Dual Core X2 4600+ at 2.8GHZ.
Enough for some games but not so much for others. You can play many games just fine with that system but some games are more demanding than others when emulating and it may not be enough.
Also maybe you just didn't configure it correctly, there's many people in here that have succesfully played gameswith even slower machines than yours, I personally finished FFX and Makai Kingdom with a Pentium Dual-Core e2160 @1.8Ghz and a 7600gt.
Quote:It makes no sense on how my system cannot run this smoothly. The rules of emulation is you need double the speed of what you are trying to emulate.
There's no such rule.
Quote:Seriously why do you need basically a super computer to run a far infeior system, not only in graphics chip, but in processor. The CPU is ONLY clocked at 300MHZ. How in the world do you need an I5, or even DUAL core to support this system. Double 300MHZ is 600 Mhz.
I had a VIA 1Ghz CPU which I may as well have used as a paperweight cause it was as slow as a Pentium 200-300mhz CPU, you shouldn't compare different kinds of chips and their speeds just like that.
And just for the record my "super computer" has a ~65 bucks CPU and a ~80 bucks graphics card and runs most games just fine.
Quote:So can someone without being a smart alek, explain why this is? Why there is such slow performance on a decent system. I am not BLAMING anyone. I am just annoyed, that even with a decent system it's basically not enjoyably and unplayable.
Read this thread:
http://forums.pcsx2.net/Thread-Why-is-PCSX2-slow
emulation tends to carry you need at least 4 times what you're trying to produce. ps2 300mhz (2 main cores) which makes a rough guess at finished state will require about a 2.4dc with a decent GPU (this is all guestimation in my head, and not actual facts)
(09-13-2010, 07:10 PM)Elfriede Wrote: [ -> ]Hmm what about the typical suikoden V.....mana khemia II? Not really much of a god of war or shadow of the colossus kind of guy..... XD
Here it varies again. Mana Khemia (or any "Gust" game) will run great and require less than most every other game. Suikoden V (IIRC) is a bit more "heavy". I think it was more demanding on the GPU than average and might take more like a good 3.0Ghz to run relatively normal. You should find it playable, but not completely normal. Again, this is based on my recollection and performance/compatibility may have improved by now (newest revision). Also, I'm assuming you're going to switch to Win7, as your performance in XP will be lesser.
(09-13-2010, 11:23 PM)Saiki Wrote: [ -> ]emulation tends to carry you need at least 4 times what you're trying to produce. ps2 300mhz (2 main cores) which makes a rough guess at finished state will require about a 2.4dc with a decent GPU (this is all guestimation in my head, and not actual facts)
4 times 300Mhz (2 cores) = 2.4Ghz (2 cores)
.......? I'm not sure about how you got there, but I could agree with the end result. In the end, there may still be a few games that nothing could really be done to help and still take more processing power to emulate properly. I can't wait to see what Tales of Legendia runs like by then.
It seems like I've read somewhere that emulation can take around 10 times the equivalent hardware of the native system (I think it was on one of those silly "360/PS3 emulator" threads). Of course, this would obviously vary on a lot of things, like how much time is invested in the emulator, the current technology available to the devs, how complex and different the emulated system is in the first place. Seriously, look what the PS2 did with two 300Mhz cores. So really, it's all just estimations and variables beyond the 5x requirements to process/convert to ix86, but for the emulator to only need 2 times the system, Sony would've had to make it themselves (like POPS).
Nevermind scratch that.
I knew it was my CPU bottlenecking.
With the new version of PCSX2 the beta, now i think i am finally seeing my true performance.
With FFX, i am geting 72FPS on the spots i used to get 45FPS on.
My EE is going to 90%, (emulating the CPU).
My GPU is never hitting above 54%. (the GS)
So it is my CPU bottlenecking, I knew having a duel video card, shouldn't be slowing this thing down. I just want a new computer I haven't upgraded in 6 years, it's so pathetic.