(01-27-2016, 11:33 PM)dogen Wrote: [ -> ]Intels are generally faster and have been for years now, especially for emulators.
Anyway that phenom ii is average. Don't expect demanding games to run well, but most games will probably be fine.
So what would be recommended for running the more demanding games?
I use a Phenom II 1045t and I have no problems. The one you posted is the next model up so you should be fine with that.
(01-28-2016, 05:16 AM)Akatosh Wrote: [ -> ]So what would be recommended for running the more demanding games?
I'd go for an unlocked i5 with a decent mobo and cooler.
(01-28-2016, 04:56 AM)[]HP[]Hawkeye Wrote: [ -> ]Unless you've looked at every CPU I don't know if I'd call that a true statement. It still comes back to preference. I think we'll just have to leave it at that. Nobody ever agrees on this stuff anyway.
I do appreciate your guys responses though. It's fun to talk tech.
Not trying to argue, but Intel processors have been faster since the core 2 duo series. C2D was faster than athlon x2 and phenom 1, nehalem/first gen i processors were faster than phenom 1 and 2. Sandy Bridge was easily faster than bulldozer, same with ivy vs piledriver, haswell vs steamroller, etc etc. The last AMD cpu that really competed in terms of straight line performance was jaguar and perhaps it's derivatives.
If you're talking about the old Athlon XP and Athlon 64s, sure. Those were easily faster than pentium 4s. It hasn't been like that since, though.
If anything I think I've been the one who's come across argumentative at times. If anyone feels they got off to a rocky start with me please accept my apology. I do tend to argue my points pretty aggressively at times which tends to lead to heated debates. Precisely what we've had here on and off for about the past 3 pages.
Ok. And I'm not saying AMD processors are bad. You can get better multi threaded performance with an amd at the same price, in some cases, than intel. It's just that for emulators, generally you want a few really fast cores, and that's why intels tend to be better.
(01-28-2016, 08:59 PM)dogen Wrote: [ -> ]Ok. And I'm not saying AMD processors are bad. You can get better multi threaded performance with an amd at the same price, in some cases, than intel. It's just that for emulators, generally you want a few really fast cores, and that's why intels tend to be better.
So I'm looking to upgrade my processor, motherboard, and RAM. I currently have an Intel Core 2 quad 8200 2.33GHz, Biostar T41 HD mobo, with 4 GB Kingston ddr2. Also GPU is XFX Radeon R9380 4GB. My question is what kind of CPU would give me the best emulation gaming performance? You mentioned something with a few really fast cores? So a dual core is optimal in this case and quad would be too much? I'm pretty new to understanding these technicalities. I'm looking at getting a motherboard that supports ddr4 RAM as well, which I'm assuming is the best for performance, but I need to figure out which CPU to get first. By the way, my current performance on pcsx2 is not good. The only game that runs halfway decent is Fight Night. Lament of Innocence runs ok until I get to a large room or a room with a lot of enemies then it slows down dramatically. Shadow of the Colossus is super slow at any point in the game. Hope this gives you a decent reference to how my current hardware handles the load of those games. Any advice is appreciated.
(02-01-2016, 08:13 AM)SpiralOut Wrote: [ -> ]So I'm looking to upgrade my processor, motherboard, and RAM. I currently have an Intel Core 2 quad 8200 2.33GHz, Biostar T41 HD mobo, with 4 GB Kingston ddr2. Also GPU is XFX Radeon R9380 4GB. My question is what kind of CPU would give me the best emulation gaming performance? You mentioned something with a few really fast cores? So a dual core is optimal in this case and quad would be too much? I'm pretty new to understanding these technicalities. I'm looking at getting a motherboard that supports ddr4 RAM as well, which I'm assuming is the best for performance, but I need to figure out which CPU to get first. By the way, my current performance on pcsx2 is not good. The only game that runs halfway decent is Fight Night. Lament of Innocence runs ok until I get to a large room or a room with a lot of enemies then it slows down dramatically. Shadow of the Colossus is super slow at any point in the game. Hope this gives you a decent reference to how my current hardware handles the load of those games. Any advice is appreciated.
Well, a quad core isn't really too much, it's just that pcsx2 doesn't (normally) benefit from more than 2-3 cores. So you want those cores to be as fast as possible. AMD can't compete with intel in terms of the speed of each core, but in how many cores you get. If you want a cheap emulation rig grab a pentium g3258 with a compatible motheboard(and ram) and go crazy. That thing overclocks to 4.2 or higher even with the stock cooler and will run almost any ps2 game no problem(inluding shadow of the coluossus no problem, I have one myself). If you have a bit more of a budget an i3 will handle regular pc games a bit better and still most ps2 games pretty well. An unlocked i5 is awesome, if you have the cash.
(02-01-2016, 10:06 AM)dogen Wrote: [ -> ]Well, a quad core isn't really too much, it's just that pcsx2 doesn't (normally) benefit from more than 2-3 cores. So you want those cores to be as fast as possible. AMD can't compete with intel in terms of the speed of each core, but in how many cores you get. If you want a cheap emulation rig grab a pentium g3258 with a compatible motheboard(and ram) and go crazy. That thing overclocks to 4.2 or higher even with the stock cooler and will run almost any ps2 game no problem(inluding shadow of the coluossus no problem, I have one myself). If you have a bit more of a budget an i3 will handle regular pc games a bit better and still most ps2 games pretty well. An unlocked i5 is awesome, if you have the cash.
Yea I was looking at a 6th gen Core i5 6600k. I don't know how to overclock yet but from what I understand, that's the unlocked one that will give you more overclocking capabilities. And from what I understand, the ability to overclock to a frequency of around 4GHz or higher is key to PCSX2 performance in high demand games, and not just the amount of cores? Am I right in this assumption?
Yup that's the idea. With these new motherboards you can just pick an overclocked profile in the bios and then do some fine tweaking afterwards if you want. As long as you have proper cooling you'll be fine.