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I only had FFX on that list, and when i tested it in software with the frame unlimited and in DX11 i got 415 - 440 and in dx9 i got 430 - 467 in the main menu. So i would guess that dx11/10 is slower than dx9 for FFX, and thats why you're having an issue?

(06-12-2013, 03:05 AM)hellbringer616 Wrote: [ -> ]I only had FFX on that list, and when i tested it in software with the frame unlimited and in DX11 i got 415 - 440 and in dx9 i got 430 - 467 in the main menu. So i would guess that dx11/10 is slower than dx9 for FFX, and thats why you're having an issue?

Maybe it's not an issue after all. But than the notion that DX11 is faster than DX9 (Because I've seen people recommend DX10/11 for the speed up in games.) and should be used instead of it, is kind of wrong.

DX10+ does use a 32bit Z-buffer compared to 9's 24bit so its going to be slower when GPU limited.

I haven't seen claims of it being faster, I've heard of it being better and more compatible than DX9, but never faster

In general it IS faster except for a handful of games (eg Shadow Hearts 1)

Dunno if this is the best place to post this, or even how many people will care but.. After a good bit of tinkering I managed to create a hacky work-around for the overlapping shadows issue in the SMT games. I figured posting it here might at least help some people out that were annoyed by this issue.

These picture are from the guy that original posted this I can confirm this problem in most recent GSDX 5681

5350 GSDX and 5620 GSDX dont have that this issue. I know the 5350 dont cause 1.0.0 stable build uses that revision and it not an issue

And know 5620 GSDX dont have this issue as it was posted http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZbg6xz-LkE So i test that to and no issue

IF some one else want to go threw GSDX plugin to find out which revision caused this go for it but i dont have time to threw 50+ revisions to figure it out

(06-25-2013, 12:25 PM)Krisan Wrote: [ -> ]Dunno if this is the best place to post this, or even how many people will care but.. After a good bit of tinkering I managed to create a hacky work-around for the overlapping shadows issue in the SMT games. I figured posting it here might at least help some people out that were annoyed by this issue.

Code:

gametitle=Shin Megami Tensei - Nocturne (SLUS-20911) (CRC-E8FCF8EC)

comment=Shadow Override (Krisan Thyme)
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====================================================================================

gametitle=Shin Megami Tensei - Lucifer's Call (SLES-53363) (CRC-AE0DE7B7)

comment=Shadow Override (Krisan Thyme)
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====================================================================================

gametitle=Shin Megami Tensei 3 - Nocturne (SLPM-65242) (CRC-D60DA6D4)

comment=Shadow Override (Krisan Thyme)
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====================================================================================

gametitle=Shin Megami Tensei 3 - Nocturne: Maniax Chronicle Edition (SLPM-66681) (CRC-47BA9034)

comment=Shadow Override (Krisan Thyme)
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Code:

gametitle=Shin Megami Tensei - Digital Devil Saga (SLUS-20974) (CRC-D7273511)

comment=Shadow Override (Krisan Thyme)
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====================================================================================

gametitle=Shin Megami Tensei - Digital Devil Saga (SLES-53458) (CRC-1683A6BE)

comment=Shadow Override (Krisan Thyme)
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Just curious, if you have tested these at all, for side effects (cycle stalls/crashes etc.)?

Anyway, I can add them as optional enables, to the current patches for these games. I can't try them out myself atm, but from the screens, they seem better than the hackfix I did for them, a while back. So I can replace them with these.

(06-28-2013, 01:51 AM)Asmodean Wrote: [ -> ]Just curious, if you have tested these at all, for side effects (cycle stalls/crashes etc.)?

Anyway, I can add them as optional enables, to the current patches for these games. I can't try them out myself atm, but from the screens, they seem better than the hackfix I did for them, a while back. So I can replace them with these.

I haven't tested the games from start to finish or anything, but I've played through the entire opening sequence of SMT3, from the start where you name your character to the point you where you can first save your game, no issues. Ran around and fought several battles at a much later point in the game too, no problems there either. If there are any issues, they'd probably crop up somewhere or by something specific.. DDS is far less tested of the two, but the hack is literally exactly the same for both - the two games use the exact same methods for rendering the shadow effect, so porting it between the two games and the different regions\editions was relatively trivial. If it works for one, should work fine for both, but likewise if there are any problems I've yet identified in one.. expect it in the other.

Anyway, I wasn't aware you (or anyone) had tried to do this before. What problems occurred when you tried this? I really only did this because I can be ridiculously OCD about little things sometimes, and after reading up that this shadow thing couldn't be fixed right now in hardware mode, I decided to take a crack at making a work-around myself.

Hey guys, I've just discovered that there is DirectX 11.1 for Windows 7. Will the installation of this version give any benefits to PCSX2 or DX11 version of Gsdx?